Zaza people are pure Kurdish

[zurderer]

Than you dont mind If I call Kurd as Turk..


By the way, I am sure kurd feel a little forced about becoming Turkish..

But who force them to attend MHP.

[Serd]

No, now I am annoyed with you...

Because you are so stuck up that you don't see my open-minded approach to your ideas of a separate Zaza nation...

I showed you respect, and you showed me your sarcastic face...

You're not even worthy my words...

And you also showed that you didn't understand my words... Because I spoke of the moment when we can vote in a referandum - whereas you are so narrow-minded and short-sighted, that you thought mainly about today...

When I talked about a referandum where people vote for a Zazana or a Kurdistan, you replied:

"Yes elections, the results of the past elections are around. Just go and see who voted for whom and see the realty."

Now that I see that you didn't understand my simple message, I won't expect you to understand me now either... That's why I am annoyed... Because my simple message was:

"When the time comes that Turkey is divided, all the people of East Anatolia, can vote if they want to be part of Kurdistan, Turkey, Zazana or Armenia..."

Hope you understood it this time... But I won't hold my breath...

Don't get upset. I did understand your previous message. I don't have to
answer you point to point. When I don't answer you point to point, don't
think that I don't understand you.

Yes, I agree with you that people should be allowed to choose their future.
And, more importantly everybody should be allowed to speak his/her
language and live his/her culture without propaganda and assimilation. We
all want that.

[Diri]

Than you dont mind If I call Kurd as Turk..


By the way, I am sure kurd feel a little forced about becoming Turkish..

But who force them to attend MHP.

You didn't understand me correctly... No, a KURD is a KURD and a TURK is a TURK...

If a Kurd has assimilated and calls himself a TURK, then he is NOT a Kurd... Isn't logical?

So the point is: call people what they want to be called... They're superior identity is what's important...

[zurderer]

No, a KURD is a KURD and a TURK is a TURK...

and a ZAZA is a ZAZA?

[Darkseid]

The Zaza people are like the Occitan people of France. The Occitan resemble the French, but their spoken diction is in it self a seperate language. This is similar in comparison to the Zazas and the Kurds. The Zazas resemble the Kurds, but they are like the Occitan as a seperate group of people.

[Diri]

No, a KURD is a KURD and a TURK is a TURK...

and a ZAZA is a ZAZA?

Yes... A ZAZA is a ZAZA...

[Darkseid]

No, a KURD is a KURD and a TURK is a TURK...

and a ZAZA is a ZAZA?

Yes... A ZAZA is a ZAZA...

Kurds are Iranian people. Calling them Turks is like calling all Iranians, Turks.

Kurds are their own people and should have their own country just like the Tajik, which have their own country. Kurds should have their own country just like the Tajiks.

[Diri]

No, a KURD is a KURD and a TURK is a TURK...

and a ZAZA is a ZAZA?

Yes... A ZAZA is a ZAZA...

Kurds are Iranian people. Calling them Turks is like calling all Iranians, Turks.

Kurds are their own people and should have their own country just like the Tajik, which have their own country. Kurds should have their own country just like the Tajiks.

What is your point?

Have I said anything contrary to that? You quoted me as if making a point...

[Darkseid]

No, a KURD is a KURD and a TURK is a TURK...

and a ZAZA is a ZAZA?

Yes... A ZAZA is a ZAZA...

Kurds are Iranian people. Calling them Turks is like calling all Iranians, Turks.

Kurds are their own people and should have their own country just like the Tajik, which have their own country. Kurds should have their own country just like the Tajiks.

What is your point?

Have I said anything contrary to that? You quoted me as if making a point...

I was agreeing with you in my own fashion. Please forgive me if I have offended you in any matter.

[K4L_2007]

No, a KURD is a KURD and a TURK is a TURK...

and a ZAZA is a ZAZA?

Yes... A ZAZA is a ZAZA...

Kurds are Iranian people. Calling them Turks is like calling all Iranians, Turks.

Kurds are their own people and should have their own country just like the Tajik, which have their own country. Kurds should have their own country just like the Tajiks.

What is your point?

Have I said anything contrary to that? You quoted me as if making a point...

I was agreeing with you in my own fashion. Please forgive me if I have offended you in any matter.

Hmm, i think Diri is basically saying that the kurds in turkey who call themselves turks arent kurds anymore.

And you mean that their still kurds no matter what, even if they dont want to be?

correct me if im wrong

[Darkseid]

No, a KURD is a KURD and a TURK is a TURK...

and a ZAZA is a ZAZA?

Yes... A ZAZA is a ZAZA...

Kurds are Iranian people. Calling them Turks is like calling all Iranians, Turks.

Kurds are their own people and should have their own country just like the Tajik, which have their own country. Kurds should have their own country just like the Tajiks.

What is your point?

Have I said anything contrary to that? You quoted me as if making a point...

I was agreeing with you in my own fashion. Please forgive me if I have offended you in any matter.

Hmm, i think Diri is basically saying that the kurds in turkey who call themselves turks arent kurds anymore.

And you mean that their still kurds no matter what, even if they dont want to be?

correct me if im wrong

Actually that is a rather interesting thing to say.

But honestly, they are still Kurdish just that they sided against Kurdish Nationality. They are probably afraid of further ridicule from the Turks and so they decided to join them. It is like an old saying, "If you can't fight them, join them." They are still Kurdish, but they prefer to live in Turkey rather than in an independent Kurdistan. They may decide to change their viewpoints when Kurdistan does become an independent state.

[Diri]

No, a KURD is a KURD and a TURK is a TURK...

and a ZAZA is a ZAZA?

Yes... A ZAZA is a ZAZA...

Kurds are Iranian people. Calling them Turks is like calling all Iranians, Turks.

Kurds are their own people and should have their own country just like the Tajik, which have their own country. Kurds should have their own country just like the Tajiks.

What is your point?

Have I said anything contrary to that? You quoted me as if making a point...

I was agreeing with you in my own fashion. Please forgive me if I have offended you in any matter.

Hmm, i think Diri is basically saying that the kurds in turkey who call themselves turks arent kurds anymore.

And you mean that their still kurds no matter what, even if they dont want to be?

correct me if im wrong

Actually that is a rather interesting thing to say.

But honestly, they are still Kurdish just that they sided against Kurdish Nationality. They are probably afraid of further ridicule from the Turks and so they decided to join them. It is like an old saying, "If you can't fight them, join them." They are still Kurdish, but they prefer to live in Turkey rather than in an independent Kurdistan. They may decide to change their viewpoints when Kurdistan does become an independent state.

No those people you are talking about - who are only living their lives as "Turks" because they are FORCED to, are not the people I am talking about...

Of course those people are Kurds - if they don't want to live their lives as "proud" Turks - then they are not Turks...

The ex-Kurds I am speaking of, are those like Inonu - who have gone over to the other side - and do not call themselves Kurds even in their own homes...

Those people, are Turks... Not Kurds...

[Darkseid]

No, a KURD is a KURD and a TURK is a TURK...

and a ZAZA is a ZAZA?

Yes... A ZAZA is a ZAZA...

Kurds are Iranian people. Calling them Turks is like calling all Iranians, Turks.

Kurds are their own people and should have their own country just like the Tajik, which have their own country. Kurds should have their own country just like the Tajiks.

What is your point?

Have I said anything contrary to that? You quoted me as if making a point...

I was agreeing with you in my own fashion. Please forgive me if I have offended you in any matter.

Hmm, i think Diri is basically saying that the kurds in turkey who call themselves turks arent kurds anymore.

And you mean that their still kurds no matter what, even if they dont want to be?

correct me if im wrong

Actually that is a rather interesting thing to say.

But honestly, they are still Kurdish just that they sided against Kurdish Nationality. They are probably afraid of further ridicule from the Turks and so they decided to join them. It is like an old saying, "If you can't fight them, join them." They are still Kurdish, but they prefer to live in Turkey rather than in an independent Kurdistan. They may decide to change their viewpoints when Kurdistan does become an independent state.

No those people you are talking about - who are only living their lives as "Turks" because they are FORCED to, are not the people I am talking about...

Of course those people are Kurds - if they don't want to live their lives as "proud" Turks - then they are not Turks...

The ex-Kurds I am speaking of, are those like Inonu - who have gone over to the other side - and do not call themselves Kurds even in their own homes...

Those people, are Turks... Not Kurds...

Well it is like the Native Americans in the United States during much of that country's history.

Native Americans were literally gunned down as sport practice and those that killed one were given a medal and pay from the state for doing so.

So why would a Native American identify him or herself as who he or she is?

Also it makes better sense in trying to practice assimilation as much as you can to better your chances of not getting caught and identified as a Native American, because then you would be killed when someone had found out. Even in your own home, someone could easily find out. There is no true privacy in the United States with the CIA and certain Police Forces having a detection system that hears exactly what you are saying even if you are underground and a few miles away.

Who is to say they don't have that technology in Turkey? Is it not a NATO member and therefore in league with the United States as a traditional ally? United States loves making her allies happy by just simply giving them her technology.