The Assault on Assyrian Christians in Iraq

[King Ashurbanipal]

Assyrian Church of the East, Dora district Baghdad.
WASHINGTON -- A militant Islamic group in Iraq recently issued a fatwa, or religious edict, to the Assyrian Christian residents of the Baghdad suburb of Dora: Convert to Islam within 24 hours, or face death. At the same time, Muslim neighbors were instructed, over the loudspeakers of local mosques, to confiscate the property of Christians and enforce the edict.

The response was as swift: The majority of Assyrians remaining in Dora immediately gathered whatever they could carry and fled the city.

Iraq's Assyrian Christians know quite well that these latest threats are not empty promises. Since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, over 25 churches across Iraq have been bombed, in highly symbolic and coordinated manners. The Islamic group claiming responsibility for the bombing of four churches in August 2004 issued a warning. "To the people of the crosses: Return to your senses and be aware that God's soldiers are ready for you. You wanted a crusade and these are its results."

Several priests have been abducted and beheaded, one in apparent retribution for the pope's public musings about Muhammed and the nature of Islam in October 2006. In March, two elderly nuns were reportedly stabbed to death in Kirkuk. Several Christian women have been beheaded or doused with chemicals for failing to wear the veil. And last October a 14-year-old Assyrian boy was crucified near Mosul.

For the Islamists, the violence has certainly had the desired effect: The massive exodus of Assyrian Christians from Iraq. The UN High Commission for Refugees estimates that as many as a third of the 1.8 million refugees now outside Iraq are Christian.

A similar percentage of the 1.6 million internally displaced within Iraq are likely Christian, many of whom have fled Baghdad, Basra and Mosul to the relatively stable Northern Iraq. The Catholic Bishop of Baghdad, Andreos Abouna, recently stated that as many as half of Iraqi Christians, perhaps half a million people, have fled the country since the 2003 invasion.

Assyrian Christians, the indigenous people of Iraq, the inheritors of the ancient Mesopotamian civilization and the world's earliest converts to Christianity, are at risk of being completely eradicated from their homeland.

In a case of tragic irony, the "liberating" international forces have done nothing to protect Iraq's Christians. Not wishing to admit the catastrophic security failure nor be seen as intervening on a religious basis, U.S. officials have simply stood aside and watched. The State Department's recent offering of 7,000 visas for refugees is not only woefully inadequate but will merely encourage the flight of Assyrians from Iraq.

The United States has been complicit with the destruction of an entire people and should be held liable for the rectification of this misfortune.

Many Assyrians have pled for the establishment of an autonomous region for Christians in Iraq. This zone would likely be situated around the Nineveh Plains, the Assyrians' ancestral homeland, where Christians still comprise the majority. Sargis Aghajan, the finance minister for the Kurdistan Regional Government and himself an Assyrian, has called for autonomy in the Nineveh Plains. He also has financed the construction of thousands of homes in the area and to the north, to prevent those Assyrians fleeing Baghdad and elsewhere from leaving the country altogether.

In March, I joined 1,200 Assyrian intellectuals and civic leaders, both from the diaspora and around Iraq, in attending a conference in Erbil which formalized Iraqi Christians' demand for autonomy. An autonomous region for Assyrians will convince those remaining in Iraq that their faith, language and way of life has a future in Iraq and persuade many of those who have fled to return.

The Bush administration and its Iraqi allies should support this development and ensure its realization. The fate of an entire people lies in the balance.

By Paul Isaac
International Herald Tribune

Paul Isaac is a member of the Assyrian Christian community in Washington and has been a leading campaigner for Assyrian rights since the invasion of Iraq.

[Darkseid]

What's sad is that the Assyrians don't even want help or know that there are Kurds that want co-existence with Assyrians.

[King Ashurbanipal]

Baghdad (AFP) -- The leaders of Iraq's Christian minority on Thursday called on the country's beleaguered government to protect their community from attacks by Al Qaeda-inspired Muslim extremists.

In a joint statement, Patriarch Mar Dinka IV of the Catholic Assyrian Church of the East and the Chaldean Catholic Patriarch Emmanuel Delly of Babylon said Baghdad's remaining Christians were facing persecution. They blamed the so-called "Islamic State of Iraq", an alliance of Islamist insurgent groups that serves as an Al-Qaeda front, for much of the violence.

[King Ashurbanipal]

Baghdad (AKI) -- An armed Iraqi group has in recent days begun targeting Christians in the residential al-Doura neighbourhood of Baghdad, according to an interior ministry source quoted by the pan Arab daily al-Sharq al-Awsat. Information obtained during probes and the interrogation of various terror suspects arrested last week indicate that this group is linked to al-Qaeda and is made up of 200 militiamen, most of them foreigners.

The terror formation has threatened with death any Christian in the mainly Sunni area. To combat the presence of what appears to be an al-Qaeda-linked cell, the Baghdad security forces last week began a series of raids, backed by US combat helicopters, which led to the arrest of various elements of the group.

In a recent interview with Adnkronos International (AKI) a Christian parliamentarian in Iraq's Kurdistan region warned that Christians in the country face mounting threats.

"Thousands of Christian families are being told to leave the country or convert to Islam or pay the jizyah (a tax traditionally imposed on non-Muslim men in Islamic states)," said the parliamentarian, Romeo Hakkari, an ethnic Assyrian of the Chaldean Church - a Roman Catholic oriental rite denomination.

According to Hakkari, who heads the House of the Two Rivers Democratic Party, which promotes the rights of Assyrian-Chaldeans, many Christians living in Mosul and Baghdad have fled those cities and sought refuge either in remote parts of Iraqi Kurdistan or abroad after receiving threats from Islamists.

He cited the example of pamphlets, purportedly distributed by the al-Qaeda-linked "Islamic State of Iraq" group that threatened to kill Christians if they did not abandon the city.

The Muslim extremists have also tried to revive the jizyah practice, which forced non-Muslism people "of the Book" (Christians and Jews) to buy protection from the authorities by paying the tax.

"Since the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime Christians in Iraq, and in particular Baghdad have faced persecution for the first time in the history of this country," Hakkari told AKI.

Iraq's Christian community was estimated to number nearly half a million or about 5 percent of the country's population on the eve of the 2003 US-led war that toppled Saddam.

Thousands of Iraqi Christians who comprise a variety of churches - Assyrian Orthodox and Assyrian Catholic; Syrian Orthodox and Syrian Catholic; Armenian Orthodox and Armenian Catholic; Greek Orthodox, Latin Catholic, and Protestant denominations - have since fled the strife-torn country.
Islam Means Peace!!! yep right...
"How PROUD are these two huge Muslims, holding an old women hostage?"

[King Ashurbanipal]

What's sad is that the Assyrians don't even want help or know that there are Kurds that want co-existence with Assyrians.

The problem with that kind of help is the Kurds wants to do it on their-own terms. They want to provide protection as long as they would occupy Kirkuk, Mosul and the other regions were Assyrians and other Non-Kurds lives and include those regions into the Greater Iraq Kurdistan.
And we have seen samples of that recently with blocking of voters in the last elections by the Kurdish controlled government and blocking the local natives from enrolling in the Iraq police force and many other types of intimidation tactics.
The Kurdish government should support and back the call of the Christian Assyrians and other non-Kurd people for an independent protected area in and around Mosul, but the kurds refuse to do that.

[Darkseid]

What's sad is that the Assyrians don't even want help or know that there are Kurds that want co-existence with Assyrians.

The problem with that kind of help is the Kurds wants to do it on their-own terms. They want to provide protection as long as they would occupy Kirkuk, Mosul and the other regions were Assyrians and other Non-Kurds lives and include those regions into the Greater Iraq Kurdistan.
And we have seen samples of that recently with blocking of voters in the last elections by the Kurdish controlled government and blocking the local natives from enrolling in the Iraq police force and many other types of intimidation tactics.
The Kurdish government should support and back the call of the Christian Assyrians and other non-Kurd people for an independent protected area in and around Mosul, but the kurds refuse to do that.

Ever met my friend, Diri?

[King Ashurbanipal]

Baghdad (AINA) -- The crisis for the Assyrian community in Baghdad's Dora neighborhood is deepening. Islamists are systematically targeting the Christian Assyrians (also known as Chaldeans and Syriacs), forcing them to pay the jizya (AINA 4-17-2007, 3-18-2007), a "protection" tax demanded by the Koran, or convert within 24 hours or be killed. Dora is located 10 kilometers southwest of Baghdad.

Families are abandoning their homes and seeking refuge in Churches:


14 families have fled to the Al-So'ud Chaldean Church.
7 families have fled to Saint Odisho Assyrian Church. 3 families are in the church and 4 in the Saint Adai Patriarchate, the old church building.
An unknown number of families have fled to Saint George Chaldean Church.

Islamic groups are preventing families from bringing any belongings as they flee their homes.

Hatem Al-Razaq, the sheik of the Al-Noor mosque in Dora, has toured Dora, visiting each Assyrian family and instructing them to pay 250,000 Iraqi dinars ($190), saying this sum is the jizya because "you are not Muslims." Families that cannot pay this sum are told to send one family member to the mosque on Friday to announce their conversion to Islam. Families who refuse to do this must leave their homes immediately and not take any of their belongings with them because "your properties belong to the mosque."

Families that do not leave and do not convert are threatened with death.

In a report by the Catholic News Agency (AINA 5-18-2007), Mar Addai II, the Patriarch of the Ancient Assyrian Church of the East, says "Only the families that agree to give a daughter or sister in marriage to a Muslim can remain, which means that the entire nuclear family will progressively become Muslim." Also, Assyrian families are forced to turn over their homes as ransom for their kidnapped relatives.

[Rumtaya]

Thats just sick what those bastards are doing, cant just someone fly over their asses and bomb down some mosques of them?

You can tell me what you want, but if there was no Islam the whole middle East would look MUCH MUCH better then it is now!

[Darkseid]

Thats just sick what those bastards are doing, cant just someone fly over their asses and bomb down some mosques of them?

You can tell me what you want, but if there was no Islam the whole middle East would look MUCH MUCH better then it is now!

Sorry but I can say the same thing about christianity.

Without christianity there would be no fighting in Germany between protestants and catholics. There would be no fighting in Northern Ireland. There would be no inquisition in Spain, France, and in other such states.

But it isn't the religions that are bad. It is those few people that take control of the faith, corrupt it, and turn it into something that it isn't. Like Bin Laden turning Islam into Anti-Islam.

[Rumtaya]

Thats just sick what those bastards are doing, cant just someone fly over their asses and bomb down some mosques of them?

You can tell me what you want, but if there was no Islam the whole middle East would look MUCH MUCH better then it is now!

Sorry but I can say the same thing about christianity.

Without christianity there would be no fighting in Germany between protestants and catholics. There would be no fighting in Northern Ireland. There would be no inquisition in Spain, France, and in other such states.

But it isn't the religions that are bad. It is those few people that take control of the faith, corrupt it, and turn it into something that it isn't. Like Bin Laden turning Islam into Anti-Islam.

I just can speak onbehalf of my Assyrian people, which had no fights like those one here in europe!

Weather have we been any Crusader nor did we someone force to convert!

The Assyrian Christians and its Church has brought christianism to people via the BOOK not Sword...

Now all these europeans are sitting comfortable on their Asses, they have done so much mistakes in the past and everytime they left the middle Eastern the Assyrian Christians were the once to be attack...also if they havent done a thing!

[Darkseid]

Thats just sick what those bastards are doing, cant just someone fly over their asses and bomb down some mosques of them?

You can tell me what you want, but if there was no Islam the whole middle East would look MUCH MUCH better then it is now!

Sorry but I can say the same thing about christianity.

Without christianity there would be no fighting in Germany between protestants and catholics. There would be no fighting in Northern Ireland. There would be no inquisition in Spain, France, and in other such states.

But it isn't the religions that are bad. It is those few people that take control of the faith, corrupt it, and turn it into something that it isn't. Like Bin Laden turning Islam into Anti-Islam.

I just can speak onbehalf of my Assyrian people, which had no fights like those one here in europe!

That is because you are orthodox. But I feel really sad if the christianity is the only thing keeping your people together.

Weather have we been any Crusader nor did we someone force to convert!

The Assyrian Christians and its Church has brought christianism to people via the BOOK not Sword...

You have gone paranoid. Christianism? LOL!

You do know that the Arab people were much more fierce and war like before Muhammad's time.

Nevermind, you probably have the same opinion about Jews as you do about Muslims. Typical Christian prejudicism.

"You gonna rot in zee hells if you don't fowwo Jesus?"

You do know that Christianity isn't even Jesus's own faith.

You want to know what faith your's truly is if it isn't Jesus's? It is Constantine's.

Your faith is an artificial religion created by Constantine from Gnosticism (actual christianity), Mithraism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism, the cult of Isis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Is ... side_Egypt, and the Roman imperial faith.

And there are obvious connection to prove this.

1) The relationship between Isis and Horus is identical to the relationship expressed between Jesus and Mary. p

2) The messiah connection with Jesus is practically identical to the messiah identity of Mithra in Mithraism, which is extremely popular amongst the Roman Soldier. What was Constantine? A Roman General. DUH!

3) The Roman Imperial Faith was a triparte of association between the Emperor and the Pagan ways of the Roman people. Of which you had Rome, the Emperor, and Jupiter as the prime three-way godliness of worship in the state of Rome. Since all three were eccential in whole to keep the stability of the empire from falling apart. This would later change to a three-way between Jesus, God (Creator), and God (Holy Spirit).

Why did Constantine create Christianity?

He did so because the old Imperial Faith wasn't working, the soldiers were quite popular with Mithraism, the majority of people were quite popular with the cult of Isis, and the intelligent people were quite popular with Gnosticism. It was a way of uniting all of Rome in the religious sense.

The funny thing though is that even Jesus's Faith is a mixture of faiths.

Jesus's Faith = Buddhism + Mandaeism.

Mandaeism = Judaism + Zoroasterism

Gnosticism = Jesus's Faith + Various Apostle Gnostic Sects

Islam = Judaism + Gnosticism + Arab Culture

Buddhism = Jainism + Hinduism

Sikhism = Hinduism + Islam

Atenism = Egypt Cult Faith + Judaism

Bahai'i = Zoroasterism + Islam

Almost all faiths are a mixture of other older faiths, except Pagan/Tribal Faiths and Jainism.

And what is Jesus's actual faith?

Jesus's actual faith is Draneism which is the concept of god being a force rather than an actual being.

Everything you have heard about involving Jesus was made up. Jesus was a jew of half-Dravidian and half Isreali descent. Jesus's doesn't know Greek and has never spoken Greek. Jesus only spoked Aramaic, Hebrew, and an Indian language or two. Jesus's father was born in Israel and Jesus's mother was born in Kochin which is in Southern India.



The Jews were pushed out of their homeland by the Babylonians. Some of them settled in Kochin. Centuries later Jews would often travel to Kochin to trade with the local Jewish population. Mary was a Jew that lived in Kochin and Joseph was a Jew that traded in Kochin. Mary and Joseph were married and traveled back to Joseph's homeland to raise a family. Joseph already had a family from his previous marriage and that might be the matter that lead Joseph in trying to find another wife.

Like all merchants they often become broke and submitted into proverty. This is what had happened to Joseph. He did something stupid and lost all of his money thus him and his family (which might had been rather wealthy) became handymen (the lowest class except for slaves). Joseph would often take his son Yeshua (which you call Jesus) with him to work on various jobs to get money to buy food and such in order to survive. Joseph had died after a few years and with nothing else to do... Mary had no choice by to move back to India. I mean what else is she going to do? She cannot raise all those children on her own with the salary from being just a handywoman. Mary has relative in India and Mary's family in India might even be quite wealthy. Smart choice is to go back to India and the Virgin Mary isn't stupid.

So they went back into India. Yeshua (Jesus to those that are Geeks, I mean Greeks) was acquinted with Buddhist philosphy which was quite popular throughout India in that time. He was probably also acquinted with Hindu and Jainist philosophy.

At the age of a mature adult, Yeshua returned to Palestine/Israel/Judea to find his destiny. He was attracted to the preachings of John the Baptist and became a part of their group. John the Baptist was soon arrested and decapitated by the Roman State. With no one else to keep the group together, Yeshua took up the responsibility of continuing the faith of John. But Yeshua did incorporate much of his own philosophy from India into this new religion. However, Yeshua's presence presented quite a threat to the Roman state since his Buddhist philosophy allowed people to question the Roman state. You see Buddhist philosophy is highly concentrated on questioning everything to try and gain a better understanding. However, having people question lets say the Roman Empire would present a threat to the Empire because it may lead to the people taking over the empire.

Yeshua's life was drawn short when he was executed on the cross. His followers such as Thomas and Mary Madeline (probably his ownly two true followers) continue his faith creating various degrees of Gnosticism. There were those that highly favor John to Yeshua and some that prefer Yeshua to John like Mary Madeline. There were some that disfavored the Gnostic ideology and became Anti-Gnostics. The Anti-Gnostics such as John (younger), Luke, Matthew, and Mark became dominate over the Gnostics and were incorporated into Constantine's Christianity.

Now all these europeans are sitting comfortable on their Asses, they have done so much mistakes in the past and everytime they left the middle Eastern the Assyrian Christians were the once to be attack...also if they havent done a thing!

Well obviously you don't understand the situation.

And butts would be a better word to use.

[Rumtaya]

That is because you are orthodox. But I feel really sad if the christianity is the only thing keeping your people together.

I am not Orthodox...., The christiianty isnt the only thing to keep us together...our language...our homeland, our culture....holds us together...


You have gone paranoid. Christianism? LOL!

you missunderstood that...., I mean that the Assyrians after adpoting the faith...they went on brining it to other people as far as china....

You do know that the Arab people were much more fierce and war like before Muhammad's time.

They, werent in the area in which they are now!

Nevermind, you probably have the same opinion about Jews as you do about Muslims. Typical Christian prejudicism.

I have nothing against Jews...why should I ....

"You gonna rot in zee hells if you don't fowwo Jesus?"

You do know that Christianity isn't even Jesus's own faith.

You want to know what faith your's truly is if it isn't Jesus's? It is Constantine's.

ehm what? lol....

Your faith is an artificial religion created by Constantine from Gnosticism (actual christianity), Mithraism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism, the cult of Isis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Is ... side_Egypt, and the Roman imperial faith.

And there are obvious connection to prove this.

1) The relationship between Isis and Horus is identical to the relationship expressed between Jesus and Mary. p

2) The messiah connection with Jesus is practically identical to the messiah identity of Mithra in Mithraism, which is extremely popular amongst the Roman Soldier. What was Constantine? A Roman General. DUH!

3) The Roman Imperial Faith was a triparte of association between the Emperor and the Pagan ways of the Roman people. Of which you had Rome, the Emperor, and Jupiter as the prime three-way godliness of worship in the state of Rome. Since all three were eccential in whole to keep the stability of the empire from falling apart. This would later change to a three-way between Jesus, God (Creator), and God (Holy Spirit).

Why did Constantine create Christianity?

He did so because the old Imperial Faith wasn't working, the soldiers were quite popular with Mithraism, the majority of people were quite popular with the cult of Isis, and the intelligent people were quite popular with Gnosticism. It was a way of uniting all of Rome in the religious sense.

The funny thing though is that even Jesus's Faith is a mixture of faiths.

Jesus's Faith = Buddhism + Mandaeism.

Mandaeism = Judaism + Zoroasterism

Gnosticism = Jesus's Faith + Various Apostle Gnostic Sects

Islam = Judaism + Gnosticism + Arab Culture

Buddhism = Jainism + Hinduism

Sikhism = Hinduism + Islam

Atenism = Egypt Cult Faith + Judaism

Bahai'i = Zoroasterism + Islam

Almost all faiths are a mixture of other older faiths, except Pagan/Tribal Faiths and Jainism.

And what is Jesus's actual faith?

Jesus's actual faith is Draneism which is the concept of god being a force rather than an actual being.

Everything you have heard about involving Jesus was made up. Jesus was a jew of half-Dravidian and half Isreali descent. Jesus's doesn't know Greek and has never spoken Greek. Jesus only spoked Aramaic, Hebrew, and an Indian language or two. Jesus's father was born in Israel and Jesus's mother was born in Kochin which is in Southern India.



The Jews were pushed out of their homeland by the Babylonians. Some of them settled in Kochin. Centuries later Jews would often travel to Kochin to trade with the local Jewish population. Mary was a Jew that lived in Kochin and Joseph was a Jew that traded in Kochin. Mary and Joseph were married and traveled back to Joseph's homeland to raise a family. Joseph already had a family from his previous marriage and that might be the matter that lead Joseph in trying to find another wife.

Like all merchants they often become broke and submitted into proverty. This is what had happened to Joseph. He did something stupid and lost all of his money thus him and his family (which might had been rather wealthy) became handymen (the lowest class except for slaves). Joseph would often take his son Yeshua (which you call Jesus) with him to work on various jobs to get money to buy food and such in order to survive. Joseph had died after a few years and with nothing else to do... Mary had no choice by to move back to India. I mean what else is she going to do? She cannot raise all those children on her own with the salary from being just a handywoman. Mary has relative in India and Mary's family in India might even be quite wealthy. Smart choice is to go back to India and the Virgin Mary isn't stupid.

So they went back into India. Yeshua (Jesus to those that are Geeks, I mean Greeks) was acquinted with Buddhist philosphy which was quite popular throughout India in that time. He was probably also acquinted with Hindu and Jainist philosophy.

At the age of a mature adult, Yeshua returned to Palestine/Israel/Judea to find his destiny. He was attracted to the preachings of John the Baptist and became a part of their group. John the Baptist was soon arrested and decapitated by the Roman State. With no one else to keep the group together, Yeshua took up the responsibility of continuing the faith of John. But Yeshua did incorporate much of his own philosophy from India into this new religion. However, Yeshua's presence presented quite a threat to the Roman state since his Buddhist philosophy allowed people to question the Roman state. You see Buddhist philosophy is highly concentrated on questioning everything to try and gain a better understanding. However, having people question lets say the Roman Empire would present a threat to the Empire because it may lead to the people taking over the empire.

Yeshua's life was drawn short when he was executed on the cross. His followers such as Thomas and Mary Madeline (probably his ownly two true followers) continue his faith creating various degrees of Gnosticism. There were those that highly favor John to Yeshua and some that prefer Yeshua to John like Mary Madeline. There were some that disfavored the Gnostic ideology and became Anti-Gnostics. The Anti-Gnostics such as John (younger), Luke, Matthew, and Mark became dominate over the Gnostics and were incorporated into Constantine's Christianity.

What ever...., I belivice in God and Jesus....so do I belive in love, peave and coexistenz....



I should have not said, that before against Islam, but you dont know how I feel...or how Assyrians feel if their people are treated like the last peace of sh.t!

I cant really remember when we had the last time of at least 10 years of freedom!

[Darkseid]

That is because you are orthodox. But I feel really sad if the christianity is the only thing keeping your people together.

I am not Orthodox...., The christiianty isnt the only thing to keep us together...our language...our homeland, our culture....holds us together...

If that is true then you should have Athiestic, Muslim, Jewish, and other types of Assyrians.

And Orthodox is the sect of Christianity most dominate in Eastern Europe and in the Middle-East.

[K4L_2007]

I should have not said, that before against Islam, but you dont know how I feel...or how Assyrians feel if their people are treated like the last peace of sh.t!

I cant really remember when we had the last time of at least 10 years of freedom!

I know exactly how you feel, as the kurds have gone through same thing, I'd probably feel the same way if it was from another religion why we were opressed, and I would try Not to believe that christians are like that (what you believe about muslims), but its very hard.

Let me quote a person:

[quote=Mike Tyson]Everybody says they believe in God but they don't do God's work. Everybody counteracts what God is really about. If Jesus was here, do you think Jesus would show me any love? Do you think Jesus would love me? I'm a Muslim, but do you think Jesus would love me ... I think Jesus would have a drink with me and discuss ... why you acting like that? Now, he would be cool. He would talk to me. No Christian ever did that and said in the name of Jesus even ... They'd throw me in jail and write bad articles about me and then go to church on Sunday and say Jesus is a wonderful man and he's coming back to save us. But they don't understand that when he comes back, that these crazy greedy capitalistic men are gonna kill him again.[quote]

This is whats going on with Islam at the moment and Im very angry that there doesn't seem to be any 100% Islamic country that doesn't follow its rules good.

But I know how you feel, you have rasism inside of you that you want to remove, but can't. The only tip I can give you is that you do your best in believing that Islam, is not what these muslims are representing.

Islam would mean something good to everybody, if it wasn't for the power-hungry men who took advantage of it, when other people looked up to them.

[Rumtaya]

I should have not said, that before against Islam, but you dont know how I feel...or how Assyrians feel if their people are treated like the last peace of sh.t!

I cant really remember when we had the last time of at least 10 years of freedom!

I know exactly how you feel, as the kurds have gone through same thing, I'd probably feel the same way if it was from another religion why we were opressed, and I would try Not to believe that christians are like that (what you believe about muslims), but its very hard.

Let me quote a person:

[quote=Mike Tyson]Everybody says they believe in God but they don't do God's work. Everybody counteracts what God is really about. If Jesus was here, do you think Jesus would show me any love? Do you think Jesus would love me? I'm a Muslim, but do you think Jesus would love me ... I think Jesus would have a drink with me and discuss ... why you acting like that? Now, he would be cool. He would talk to me. No Christian ever did that and said in the name of Jesus even ... They'd throw me in jail and write bad articles about me and then go to church on Sunday and say Jesus is a wonderful man and he's coming back to save us. But they don't understand that when he comes back, that these crazy greedy capitalistic men are gonna kill him again.

This is whats going on with Islam at the moment and Im very angry that there doesn't seem to be any 100% Islamic country that doesn't follow its rules good.

But I know how you feel, you have rasism inside of you that you want to remove, but can't. The only tip I can give you is that you do your best in believing that Islam, is not what these muslims are representing.

Islam would mean something good to everybody, if it wasn't for the power-hungry men who took advantage of it, when other people looked up to them.

Thanks for that post kak...

The problem is, as I thing about it....how many time have Assyrians been killed in the last 100 years, because soem fulls declared the Jihad on us?

This was so when the Turks killed the chritians...and to get the help of Kurds they declared the Jihad up on Christians in those areas...

You know what I am saying? If Assyrians would have been kind of crusaders, I would understand the Anger of Muslim people...but we havnt even done a thing to people around us for at least 2000 years!


What we are looking for is, living in peace and freedom....

and just look at our population, we cant claim our homeland, because our numbers were always reduced, thus if we say we want our homeland we are told that our numbers are not enough....

well we need our freedom and peace for at least 50 years...to reach a population that can inhabit parts of our homeland...but if it goes like that we wont be there after 50 years


But I have FAITH in freedom for your nation, my nation and everyone else

peace