Êzdî Kurds Executed [WARNING - GRAPHIC VIDEO]

[Darkseid]

I don't consider true muslims to be those that are so willing to commit murder under such prejudicism.

Very true. I really wonder though if they really believe, what they are doing is right or if they just use it on purpose and claim thats the reason why they do it??

That is why we need to breech an understanding. We need to communicate and get information heard about why things are being done as they are by the people that are doing them. And they need to keep their cool as we try to explain to them why what they are doing is wrong. Or why killing is more wrong that just making their lives miserable or whatever that they could have done rather than resorting to stoning. Maybe they need to play video games to release some of that anxiety that goes on during the day, since most of them work more than fifty something hours in a week. Maybe they need psychological counseling.

If you had a job demanding severe physical labor and many hours throughout week, which prohibit you from doing much of the things you like doing during the day, then maybe you too much become rather hostile and aggressive.

I know a lot of people don't agree with video games since they can become quite a bother to certain groups of people, but they do reduce your stress and anxiety.

Give the people electricity, TVs, a PS2, and Tekken 5 or 4, then their aggressive nature of the Middle East should tame for the most part.

Maybe we should held Martial Arts competitions in the Middle-East much like you do in Thailand that will allow people to participate.

We could also open up sports like American Football or Soccer (International Football) to more people and help lower the stressful conditions of work.

All these things should help make the people less active on pursuing aggression.

Example in Iran, where they force people to wear veils, according to the Quran its a strong recommendation for women to wear veils, as men shouldnt have a big mustache etc, but the Quran clearly says: Never kill an innocent, never force someone to religion, never tell someone how to believe in his/her religion.

Did you know that Muhammad's faith actually resembles much more closer to Sufism than it does to the largest degress of Sunni and Shi'a?

The same goes for Christianity, which more closely resembles Gnosticism in its earlier days than it does to the many christian sects that exist.

Even Moses's Judaism was completely different from today's Judaism.

What I'm going with this is that the religion most people follow today even those that aren't Muslim doesn't resemble the religion that was actually established by their corresponding prophet.

Even Buddhism doesn't resemble their prophet's teachings. True Buddhism was more like Sufism and Gnosticism than it is preceived today.

I believe the true nature of what I call the one prophet (since I believe he reincarnates to make all the others we see in history) is of promoting peace and stability. Now the one prophet is not really the only prophet, but usually if there are other prophets they tend to become apostle like to the one prophet. For instance, John an apostle of Jesus can easily be a prophet of his own right if he didn't associate with Jesus.

John the Baptist could be seen as an apostle of Jesus if he had lived long enough to become an apostle of Jesus. He is also a prophet in his own right, by establishing a faith of god before Jesus.

I agree with what you say, but a reincarnation of a prophet is hard for me to believe, since the Quran said that Muhammed was the last prophet, I think the reason why he was, is because God warned earth one last time.

Well if you noticed in the Quran it also says about the return of Christ or the last Imam. In certain Muslims faiths, they are considered one in the same and in others they aren't.

But the thing you have to realize is that it was talking about Muhammad's soul and not Muhammad's physical form.

Muhammad's soul is the last of the Arch Drakons (well the last soul to retain its Arch Drakon identity) and the sole protector of Existence. He would never seek to retire from his goal of pacifying the Earth's inhabitants. He will continue to return to his people for as long as he continues to exist. But since he is the last of the Arch Drakons, there will never be another soul to protect existece after he should perhaps cease to exist. (Literally that means death of the soul when you cease to exist, but it is a much more permanent/athiestical version of death, since you really will cease to exist)

I think the real thing involved with your differ in opinion on reincarnation is that you might not have received your self-awareness of your own past lives.

Most of the prophets were there to stop people to do whats bad, I think and to get followers. (Jesus, Abraham, Muhammed, Noah and more).

Well they didn't realy seek to get followers. It is more like their followers seek guidance over their sins to find peace. People naturally have a desire for peace as we have two identities. (Kind of like two souls as in Egyptian Mythology or like having two parts of one's consciousness in psychology). One of these forces desires peace as it ties in with our divine connection with god. Our other force desires to inflict pain and misery and to benefit off of other's misery and misfortune.

What Muhammad is? And I do know that I've said this before is an Arch Drakon (Or Most Elder Spirit) that has the natural ability to lead people to follow their rightious path. This is the purpose and identity of the many prophets (From Noah to the first Guru of Sikhism) as they are really one soul that reincarnates.

This is why I say that Muhammad = Jesus = Buddha = Moses = Noah = Nanak Dev (first Guru of Sihkism) = Zoroaster = Abraham. It is the same soul, but it simply just reincarnates to continue its work on Earth. The great soul has to live as a mortal to rally the people. He cannot simply just become a soul that shall exist in flesh till the end of time, because humanity will never see each others as equals if he ever did such a thing. That is why Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, Moses, and such were all mortals and why that great soul that became each of them will continue to live as a mortal.

But no more, earth is left to be on its own, even if it kills itself. All warnings from God turned out to not help the stupid mankind very well

^^Thats just what I believe

And I can see why you believe it. In the perspective of an intellectual, mankind does seem doomed for extinction. No one in existence really cares about the little helpless human race. All except for one soul and that soul is the last of the Arch Drakons. A soul that has childish optimism, extreme depression almost the point of suicide (talks about this in the Quran), and a great voice of strength and courage to rally just about anyone in Existence to the greater good of the true god. That soul my friend has never left us and never shall as long as we continue our need and desire to follow it on its couragious path towards a dignified utopia. So don't give up on our people just yet.

[Balci]

I don't consider true muslims to be those that are so willing to commit murder under such prejudicism.

Very true. I really wonder though if they really believe, what they are doing is right or if they just use it on purpose and claim thats the reason why they do it??

That is why we need to breech an understanding. We need to communicate and get information heard about why things are being done as they are by the people that are doing them. And they need to keep their cool as we try to explain to them why what they are doing is wrong. Or why killing is more wrong that just making their lives miserable or whatever that they could have done rather than resorting to stoning. Maybe they need to play video games to release some of that anxiety that goes on during the day, since most of them work more than fifty something hours in a week. Maybe they need psychological counseling.

If you had a job demanding severe physical labor and many hours throughout week, which prohibit you from doing much of the things you like doing during the day, then maybe you too much become rather hostile and aggressive.

I know a lot of people don't agree with video games since they can become quite a bother to certain groups of people, but they do reduce your stress and anxiety.

Give the people electricity, TVs, a PS2, and Tekken 5 or 4, then their aggressive nature of the Middle East should tame for the most part.

Maybe we should held Martial Arts competitions in the Middle-East much like you do in Thailand that will allow people to participate.

We could also open up sports like American Football or Soccer (International Football) to more people and help lower the stressful conditions of work.

All these things should help make the people less active on pursuing aggression.

Example in Iran, where they force people to wear veils, according to the Quran its a strong recommendation for women to wear veils, as men shouldnt have a big mustache etc, but the Quran clearly says: Never kill an innocent, never force someone to religion, never tell someone how to believe in his/her religion.

Did you know that Muhammad's faith actually resembles much more closer to Sufism than it does to the largest degress of Sunni and Shi'a?

The same goes for Christianity, which more closely resembles Gnosticism in its earlier days than it does to the many christian sects that exist.

Even Moses's Judaism was completely different from today's Judaism.

What I'm going with this is that the religion most people follow today even those that aren't Muslim doesn't resemble the religion that was actually established by their corresponding prophet.

Even Buddhism doesn't resemble their prophet's teachings. True Buddhism was more like Sufism and Gnosticism than it is preceived today.

I believe the true nature of what I call the one prophet (since I believe he reincarnates to make all the others we see in history) is of promoting peace and stability. Now the one prophet is not really the only prophet, but usually if there are other prophets they tend to become apostle like to the one prophet. For instance, John an apostle of Jesus can easily be a prophet of his own right if he didn't associate with Jesus.

John the Baptist could be seen as an apostle of Jesus if he had lived long enough to become an apostle of Jesus. He is also a prophet in his own right, by establishing a faith of god before Jesus.

I agree with what you say, but a reincarnation of a prophet is hard for me to believe, since the Quran said that Muhammed was the last prophet, I think the reason why he was, is because God warned earth one last time.

Well if you noticed in the Quran it also says about the return of Christ or the last Imam. In certain Muslims faiths, they are considered one in the same and in others they aren't.

But the thing you have to realize is that it was talking about Muhammad's soul and not Muhammad's physical form.

Muhammad's soul is the last of the Arch Drakons (well the last soul to retain its Arch Drakon identity) and the sole protector of Existence. He would never seek to retire from his goal of pacifying the Earth's inhabitants. He will continue to return to his people for as long as he continues to exist. But since he is the last of the Arch Drakons, there will never be another soul to protect existece after he should perhaps cease to exist. (Literally that means death of the soul when you cease to exist, but it is a much more permanent/athiestical version of death, since you really will cease to exist)

I think the real thing involved with your differ in opinion on reincarnation is that you might not have received your self-awareness of your own past lives.

Most of the prophets were there to stop people to do whats bad, I think and to get followers. (Jesus, Abraham, Muhammed, Noah and more).

Well they didn't realy seek to get followers. It is more like their followers seek guidance over their sins to find peace. People naturally have a desire for peace as we have two identities. (Kind of like two souls as in Egyptian Mythology or like having two parts of one's consciousness in psychology). One of these forces desires peace as it ties in with our divine connection with god. Our other force desires to inflict pain and misery and to benefit off of other's misery and misfortune.

What Muhammad is? And I do know that I've said this before is an Arch Drakon (Or Most Elder Spirit) that has the natural ability to lead people to follow their rightious path. This is the purpose and identity of the many prophets (From Noah to the first Guru of Sikhism) as they are really one soul that reincarnates.

This is why I say that Muhammad = Jesus = Buddha = Moses = Noah = Nanak Dev (first Guru of Sihkism) = Zoroaster = Abraham. It is the same soul, but it simply just reincarnates to continue its work on Earth. The great soul has to live as a mortal to rally the people. He cannot simply just become a soul that shall exist in flesh till the end of time, because humanity will never see each others as equals if he ever did such a thing. That is why Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, Moses, and such were all mortals and why that great soul that became each of them will continue to live as a mortal.

But no more, earth is left to be on its own, even if it kills itself. All warnings from God turned out to not help the stupid mankind very well

^^Thats just what I believe

And I can see why you believe it. In the perspective of an intellectual, mankind does seem doomed for extinction. No one in existence really cares about the little helpless human race. All except for one soul and that soul is the last of the Arch Drakons. A soul that has childish optimism, extreme depression almost the point of suicide (talks about this in the Quran), and a great voice of strength and courage to rally just about anyone in Existence to the greater good of the true god. That soul my friend has never left us and never shall as long as we continue our need and desire to follow it on its couragious path towards a dignified utopia. So don't give up on our people just yet.

Finally a person with common sense about how to relax, giving them some consoles and martial arts would help, at least someone.

You know, those anti-Americans among them, GIVE THEM ANIME!!! xD Japanese culture could ABSOLUTELY be a alternative, its not American, and it may not seem too unfamiliar, + it is über high quality, everyone should give it a chance. Espicaly those who think western culture dominates.

[Diri]

Let's stay on topic...

[K4L_2007]

I don't consider true muslims to be those that are so willing to commit murder under such prejudicism.

Very true. I really wonder though if they really believe, what they are doing is right or if they just use it on purpose and claim thats the reason why they do it??

That is why we need to breech an understanding. We need to communicate and get information heard about why things are being done as they are by the people that are doing them. And they need to keep their cool as we try to explain to them why what they are doing is wrong. Or why killing is more wrong that just making their lives miserable or whatever that they could have done rather than resorting to stoning. Maybe they need to play video games to release some of that anxiety that goes on during the day, since most of them work more than fifty something hours in a week. Maybe they need psychological counseling.

If you had a job demanding severe physical labor and many hours throughout week, which prohibit you from doing much of the things you like doing during the day, then maybe you too much become rather hostile and aggressive.

I know a lot of people don't agree with video games since they can become quite a bother to certain groups of people, but they do reduce your stress and anxiety.

Give the people electricity, TVs, a PS2, and Tekken 5 or 4, then their aggressive nature of the Middle East should tame for the most part.

Maybe we should held Martial Arts competitions in the Middle-East much like you do in Thailand that will allow people to participate.

We could also open up sports like American Football or Soccer (International Football) to more people and help lower the stressful conditions of work.

All these things should help make the people less active on pursuing aggression.

Example in Iran, where they force people to wear veils, according to the Quran its a strong recommendation for women to wear veils, as men shouldnt have a big mustache etc, but the Quran clearly says: Never kill an innocent, never force someone to religion, never tell someone how to believe in his/her religion.

Did you know that Muhammad's faith actually resembles much more closer to Sufism than it does to the largest degress of Sunni and Shi'a?

The same goes for Christianity, which more closely resembles Gnosticism in its earlier days than it does to the many christian sects that exist.

Even Moses's Judaism was completely different from today's Judaism.

What I'm going with this is that the religion most people follow today even those that aren't Muslim doesn't resemble the religion that was actually established by their corresponding prophet.

Even Buddhism doesn't resemble their prophet's teachings. True Buddhism was more like Sufism and Gnosticism than it is preceived today.

I believe the true nature of what I call the one prophet (since I believe he reincarnates to make all the others we see in history) is of promoting peace and stability. Now the one prophet is not really the only prophet, but usually if there are other prophets they tend to become apostle like to the one prophet. For instance, John an apostle of Jesus can easily be a prophet of his own right if he didn't associate with Jesus.

John the Baptist could be seen as an apostle of Jesus if he had lived long enough to become an apostle of Jesus. He is also a prophet in his own right, by establishing a faith of god before Jesus.

I agree with what you say, but a reincarnation of a prophet is hard for me to believe, since the Quran said that Muhammed was the last prophet, I think the reason why he was, is because God warned earth one last time.

Well if you noticed in the Quran it also says about the return of Christ or the last Imam. In certain Muslims faiths, they are considered one in the same and in others they aren't.

But the thing you have to realize is that it was talking about Muhammad's soul and not Muhammad's physical form.

Muhammad's soul is the last of the Arch Drakons (well the last soul to retain its Arch Drakon identity) and the sole protector of Existence. He would never seek to retire from his goal of pacifying the Earth's inhabitants. He will continue to return to his people for as long as he continues to exist. But since he is the last of the Arch Drakons, there will never be another soul to protect existece after he should perhaps cease to exist. (Literally that means death of the soul when you cease to exist, but it is a much more permanent/athiestical version of death, since you really will cease to exist)

I think the real thing involved with your differ in opinion on reincarnation is that you might not have received your self-awareness of your own past lives.

Most of the prophets were there to stop people to do whats bad, I think and to get followers. (Jesus, Abraham, Muhammed, Noah and more).

Well they didn't realy seek to get followers. It is more like their followers seek guidance over their sins to find peace. People naturally have a desire for peace as we have two identities. (Kind of like two souls as in Egyptian Mythology or like having two parts of one's consciousness in psychology). One of these forces desires peace as it ties in with our divine connection with god. Our other force desires to inflict pain and misery and to benefit off of other's misery and misfortune.

What Muhammad is? And I do know that I've said this before is an Arch Drakon (Or Most Elder Spirit) that has the natural ability to lead people to follow their rightious path. This is the purpose and identity of the many prophets (From Noah to the first Guru of Sikhism) as they are really one soul that reincarnates.

This is why I say that Muhammad = Jesus = Buddha = Moses = Noah = Nanak Dev (first Guru of Sihkism) = Zoroaster = Abraham. It is the same soul, but it simply just reincarnates to continue its work on Earth. The great soul has to live as a mortal to rally the people. He cannot simply just become a soul that shall exist in flesh till the end of time, because humanity will never see each others as equals if he ever did such a thing. That is why Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, Moses, and such were all mortals and why that great soul that became each of them will continue to live as a mortal.

But no more, earth is left to be on its own, even if it kills itself. All warnings from God turned out to not help the stupid mankind very well

^^Thats just what I believe

And I can see why you believe it. In the perspective of an intellectual, mankind does seem doomed for extinction. No one in existence really cares about the little helpless human race. All except for one soul and that soul is the last of the Arch Drakons. A soul that has childish optimism, extreme depression almost the point of suicide (talks about this in the Quran), and a great voice of strength and courage to rally just about anyone in Existence to the greater good of the true god. That soul my friend has never left us and never shall as long as we continue our need and desire to follow it on its couragious path towards a dignified utopia. So don't give up on our people just yet.

There are many ways to interpret what the Quran says, but I think that the soul is individual, it has appeared when you learn to live as your religion wants to, how you think its right.

When atheists ask where God is, I would say God is everywhere

When they ask why they cant see God, I would say because God doesnt want to be shown.

Then they ask, how they can believe in something they cant see

And that is because human race is here, on earth to be tested. God appeared during Jesus time, Muhammed and Moses etc. If God appears now so the people of earth would believe in him, in 2000 years, the human race would still not believe, thats why he doesnt show himself.

God is the soul, but he will appear after life, I think

Your right, God has always been there, he was there before everything, he is the time.

At the time of Noah, God chose to save the only one who was a good man, and his family, and not try to save the entire human race because of its stupid act. So if there will be a fall of earth, I think he will only save those who has been really loyal towards him.

[dyaoko]

a kurdish kid , has made a paiting about Dowa



it says, dear dwa why they did this to you..

check out this Kurdish girl's blog here
http://zarya.kurdblogger.com/

[Jamo]

Wow I haven't been here for a very long time and I can see that Cazyun has disappeared but the conflict between Kurds from different religions and backgrounds is still very present.

One more evidence that Zazas are not Kurds. Zazas had never honor killings and this has not to do with our religion Alevism but with our culture. Yezidis and Muslims Kurds both kill their familymembers or other people for honor but Zazas never do that. (Regarless if one is a Sunni Muslim Zaza from south or an Alevi Zaza from north)

Honorkilling is the most stupid thing a human can do! You Kurds should bring an end to it! It's the 2007 for gods sake...

[raman82]

well the video is indicitive of what arabs feel for kurds in general . Eventhough , Kurds are "sunni muslim" , about 180 000 (based on some sources) men were executed in similar fashion and left for dogs to eat during Saddams regime. So religious affilition proved to be of no use to the Kurds. Ironically the religion which was adopted by the kurds(mostly forcibly) by the arabs , has been there bane , in that arabs seek to wipe out kurds (most of them) or arabicize them . So in essence the irony is , a wahhabist militant form of islam threatens the kurds , who are moderates in general ,none the less it is a variant of sunni islam.

[Feyli_kord]

This is a disqusting act of terrorism in it's truest form! how dare they come into our lands and slaugther our countrysmen in there own land , how dare they!!!.