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PostAuthor: Darkseid » Tue May 22, 2007 6:28 pm

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Our Patriotism is all what count, Turkey can't beat us, even with their state-of-art weapons. This time, we won't be too kind or forgivable.

Sorry, when did you forgivable. am I wrong or It was selcuks and ottomans ruled kurdish cities.

I dont remember any point at history, Kurds conquered istanbul and show mercy us..


awkward...

Istanbul wants to remain secular. The Eastern Turks that live in Anatolia want to establish an Islamic State.


You are talking form your ass.. AKP have almost same vote at istanbul and anatolia..


Shouldn't be so disrespectful. Also it is a known fact you turd that people in Istanbul are far more pro-secular than the Anatolian-Turks.

Istanbul have as religious people as most of other cities.


You should learn to write your statements correctly if you want to attack someone under intellectual terms.

Also, yes there are a lot of religious people in Istanbul. In fact 99% of Turkey is muslim.

But those religious people in Istanbul are more secular than the religious people in the Eastern portion of Turkey. In fact, my unenlightened friend, it is a known fact that Rural areas and Urban areas share a distinct difference when it comes to liberal and conservative ideology. Istanbul is by far the most urban area of Turkey, so it will have the most secular people in Turkey.

If you care to disagree, then I'll just have to put you on ignore until you can start acting civilized. It isn't that I disagree or something else, it is just that I don't like people who show no moral character. Balci is an nonthiest and he shows more moral character than you.

Greece the country that has made Western Civilization or Turkey. I think most of Europe and the United States will side with Greece. If the Greeks are on the Kurd's side then certainly things will become much better for the Kurds with all that support.


Greece? do you think they would fight for Kurds? They did not even fight for greek at cyprus..
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Well more of the reason why the Greek Cypriots should distance themselves from Greece.
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PostAuthor: Balci » Tue May 22, 2007 7:24 pm

In the days of the ottoman empire, we did everything for the Turks, we were their army, and we shared much culture with them. We could have crushed them if the Kurds were really opposed to them. But no, we acted like brothers then, no one could really predict that this would happen. All atagay's fault.
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PostAuthor: K4L_2007 » Tue May 22, 2007 8:30 pm

Balci wrote:In the days of the ottoman empire, we did everything for the Turks, we were their army, and we shared much culture with them. We could have crushed them if the Kurds were really opposed to them. But no, we acted like brothers then, no one could really predict that this would happen. All atagay's fault.


true, we could have a good relationship with them, but mustafa kemal blew it all up, he is the main reason for all death at north kurdistan and turkey.
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PostAuthor: Darkseid » Wed May 23, 2007 2:27 am

I think it is the European's powers fault of what they should have done after World War I and the fall of the Ottoman Empire. They chould have united Kurdish regions in Syria, Iraq, and Turkey. But instead they divided them off.
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PostAuthor: zurderer » Wed May 23, 2007 6:53 am

In the days of the ottoman empire, we did everything for the Turks, we were their army, and we shared much culture with them. We could have crushed them if the Kurds were really opposed to them. But no, we acted like brothers then, no one could really predict that this would happen. All atagay's fault


Well, not totally true. Ottomans and kurds need each other(be sure kurdish need is more) against safavis.

So It is not we do everything for Turks, sunni turks and sunni kurds helped each other.. Infact Ottomans helped kurds and fought against shia Turks for kurds. It is not we helped you and you did nothing for us..

Also lets not forget, even before Ataturk there was kurdish rebellions against ottomans..

Nationalism effected both turks and kurds. However I agree, Turks were more effected..

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PostAuthor: zurderer » Wed May 23, 2007 7:00 am

Shouldn't be so disrespectful. Also it is a known fact you turd that people in Istanbul are far more pro-secular than the Anatolian-Turks.


Yeah after all, who am I. Someone who live in istanbul..

AKP got 34,43 at Turkey and got 37.02 from istanbul..

Hope this is enough for you.. This urban rural thing dont work for Turkey much.. Because of immigrations.


Then I should see no reason they want it back really


They dont want trabzon, It is just a nationalist dream. Problem with greece is not lie at anatolia or turkish soils. But cyprus and eagean sea..

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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: K4L_2007 » Thu May 24, 2007 9:47 pm

No they didnt, the results were fiddled
Just like many americans believe, when George Bush won the election, he doesnt have a big fanbase and many americans believe the votes were fiddled.
And thats democrat

Turkey is dictatorship, which no country would bother to care if the results were fiddled, same thing about the votes of the kurdish parties, kurds have no power at turkey anyway.

Fiddled = fake results/changed results
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: zurderer » Fri May 25, 2007 6:48 am

changed results? Your stupid ideas about Turkey always make me funny..

You should stop to blame Turkey without no evidence..

Funny, People who have no idea about Turkey think that They know Turkey better than people who live in Turkey..

If Kurdish ethnic party has not power, reason is All kurds dont vote for it. Even majority of kurds dont vote for it.

When It comes to Kurds(not nationalist ones.), They have more than their fair share at Turkey parliment.

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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Darkseid » Fri May 25, 2007 1:09 pm

zurderer wrote:changed results? Your stupid ideas about Turkey always make me funny..

You should stop to blame Turkey without no evidence..

Funny, People who have no idea about Turkey think that They know Turkey better than people who live in Turkey..

If Kurdish ethnic party has not power, reason is All kurds dont vote for it. Even majority of kurds dont vote for it.

When It comes to Kurds(not nationalist ones.), They have more than their fair share at Turkey parliment.


Can someone please Ban this troll, before we all declare a flame war on him?
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Balci » Fri May 25, 2007 1:23 pm

war is always a good solution.
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Darkseid » Fri May 25, 2007 1:41 pm

Balci wrote:war is always a good solution.


It should be a crime to use grammar as poorly as he does. Just listening to him lowers the overall intelligence of this forum.

I mean are all Turks as stupid as he is?
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: K4L_2007 » Fri May 25, 2007 3:23 pm

zurderer wrote:changed results? Your stupid ideas about Turkey always make me funny..

You should stop to blame Turkey without no evidence..

Funny, People who have no idea about Turkey think that They know Turkey better than people who live in Turkey..

If Kurdish ethnic party has not power, reason is All kurds dont vote for it. Even majority of kurds dont vote for it.

When It comes to Kurds(not nationalist ones.), They have more than their fair share at Turkey parliment.


So you say its impossible?? When people think the same way about the US which is a democrat country?
If Saddam Hussein can send "vote for me" cards to every single person in Iraq, where the card only has an option of "yes to saddam hussein" and no declining of saddam hussein, then what is not possible if you are a dictator.

I dont think the kurdish parties would win, but giving them a low number would not allow them in the parliament, and also making people give up on kurdistan.

You living there has nothing to do with anything. I can easily say: I know lots kurds from turkey who says the kurds are being opressed, and they hate the government. Most kurds who were protesting and demostrating against turkey, most of them were kurds from turkey. Isnt that a coincendence.

I think half a million of kurds were supporting pkk only in berlin
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: zurderer » Fri May 25, 2007 4:43 pm

what is your proof about fake elections? If you have not, You have no right to blame Turkey too..

I mean are all Turks as stupid as he is?


No, Turks from levant fedaration are more intelligent. :lol:

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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: Balci » Fri May 25, 2007 4:47 pm

Darkseid wrote:
Balci wrote:war is always a good solution.


It should be a crime to use grammar as poorly as he does. Just listening to him lowers the overall intelligence of this forum.

I mean are all Turks as stupid as he is?


Well... I must say, most Turks can be a little dumb at times, from my own experience, you can't speak about facts with them, they just decline it. But they can be friendly if you get used to how they oppose us, and just shut the fuck up about politics :)

And then we have those smart Turks, Those who KNOW people are equal, and those who doesn't flame us for no reason, like Nuray, the new member,
she knows that people are equal, and just registrating on this forum as a Turk, with no meaning of flaming us, as a brave action.

Of course, the smart and kind Turks are inferior to rest of the Turkish population, but they exists, and thats a good thing.'

long live smart Turks.
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Re: Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

PostAuthor: K4L_2007 » Fri May 25, 2007 10:21 pm

True

The only problem is that not many of them dare to show their opinions.

There were about a hundreds of turks trying to stop their government from what they did to kurds.

All of these turks went to prison and got tortured.
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