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PostAuthor: jihan_jan » Fri May 04, 2007 11:00 pm

kurdish dancing is beautiful i love it...I think it was very nice that diri you provided all those picture's to the public to get a better understanding of kurdish culture and dancing....as for myself I love dancing and enjoy every minute of it....my favorite thing about the kurdish culture is dancing and kurdish clothe's are so beautiful...i mean just being dressed in kurdish clothe's is the best feeling in the world....they are just so beautiul

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sat May 05, 2007 7:49 pm

Bijî birayê hêja! :)

Agree with you 100% - Kurdish clothes and dancing are the best!!!

By the way - do you know how to dance the Çoxî? I am trying to learn it... It's from Duhok! Of course you must know it... :D
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PostAuthor: azade_ » Mon May 07, 2007 1:46 pm

kurdishgirl I'm sorry to hear that you have that opinion because kurdish cluthes are really beautiful and shouldn't be forgotten by those who have moved to western countries.
In Kurdistan I have seen that almost all elderly people wear it and the younger generation wear it for celebrations.
I'm not kurdish but I have two dresses already and I insist on my husband wearing it on special occations because it is very important not to lose touch with your culture and your heritage.

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PostAuthor: Darkseid » Mon May 21, 2007 11:24 pm

azade_ wrote:kurdishgirl I'm sorry to hear that you have that opinion because kurdish cluthes are really beautiful and shouldn't be forgotten by those who have moved to western countries.
In Kurdistan I have seen that almost all elderly people wear it and the younger generation wear it for celebrations.
I'm not kurdish but I have two dresses already and I insist on my husband wearing it on special occations because it is very important not to lose touch with your culture and your heritage.


It is okay if you adopt Kurdish culture or clothing, it is a way of helping spread the significance of the Kurds to the rest of the world. Which of course will help us in becoming one people within a thousand years thus ending all conflict and war between ourselves.

Remember the more you interact and spread another culture throughout another land, the more peaceful our world becomes.
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Re: Govendên Kurdî - The Kurdish dances

PostAuthor: sicpit » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:39 pm

wow, it's nice to see so many diferent cultures within one culture. Some of the people looked like they were from India, and one other by their clothes looke possibly Assian. All these are very bright colors. Kurds love bright and flashy colors. I tend to gravitate towards darker colors. Blue, Red, and especially Black. I usually wear black clothes... Thank you Diri.
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Re: Govendên Kurdî - The Kurdish dances

PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:09 pm

Is Cepki Turkish for Chepi?
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Re: Govendên Kurdî - The Kurdish dances

PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:33 pm

Vladimir wrote:Is Cepki Turkish for Chepi?



Nope... "ÇepKî" is like "KirmancKî" and "RastKî" - etc. - it's the suffix for "-ish" in English... But not quit the same as "-î" (Kurdish)...

For example:

Çepî = Leftwards (preposition)
Çepkî = Leftish (adjective)

:)

Why did you assume it was Turkish? Because of the dance/song? :)
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Re: Govendên Kurdî - The Kurdish dances

PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:35 pm

sicpit wrote:wow, it's nice to see so many diferent cultures within one culture. Some of the people looked like they were from India, and one other by their clothes looke possibly Assian. All these are very bright colors. Kurds love bright and flashy colors. I tend to gravitate towards darker colors. Blue, Red, and especially Black. I usually wear black clothes... Thank you Diri.


You are welcome! :D

Well generally speaking, Kurds love colourful clothes... :)
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Re: Govendên Kurdî - The Kurdish dances

PostAuthor: sicpit » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:49 pm

Diri wrote:
sicpit wrote:wow, it's nice to see so many diferent cultures within one culture. Some of the people looked like they were from India, and one other by their clothes looke possibly Assian. All these are very bright colors. Kurds love bright and flashy colors. I tend to gravitate towards darker colors. Blue, Red, and especially Black. I usually wear black clothes... Thank you Diri.


You are welcome! :D

Well generally speaking, Kurds love colourful clothes... :)

Yes, but I also notice they love "gothinc type" art. I belong to Kurdspace.com, well I am hardly active, but I see a lot of dark art, I would expect to see on an occultist and or pagan profile. Dark angels and fairies crying. As far as I know Kurds and their ancestors were never moon worshipers like the Sumerians. They border the Akkadians and the Assyrians which I believe were mostly sun worshipers.(we are talking ancient times) I wonder where dark art influanced the Kurdish youth...


Generally speaking of course
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Re: Govendên Kurdî - The Kurdish dances

PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:05 pm

sicpit wrote:
Diri wrote:
sicpit wrote:wow, it's nice to see so many diferent cultures within one culture. Some of the people looked like they were from India, and one other by their clothes looke possibly Assian. All these are very bright colors. Kurds love bright and flashy colors. I tend to gravitate towards darker colors. Blue, Red, and especially Black. I usually wear black clothes... Thank you Diri.


You are welcome! :D

Well generally speaking, Kurds love colourful clothes... :)

Yes, but I also notice they love "gothinc type" art. I belong to Kurdspace.com, well I am hardly active, but I see a lot of dark art, I would expect to see on an occultist and or pagan profile. Dark angels and fairies crying. As far as I know Kurds and their ancestors were never moon worshipers like the Sumerians. They border the Akkadians and the Assyrians which I believe were mostly sun worshipers.(we are talking ancient times) I wonder where dark art influanced the Kurdish youth...

Generally speaking of course


Well bro, first of all, let's keep in mind that Kurds in the diaspora (in the West especially) are far from the Kurdistani reality... Like Kurds in America and Europe - are mostly detatched from the lifestyle and trends of Kurdistan and it's occupying countries... Most Kurdish youth today, in the diaspora, feels alien to the traditions, trends and social structure of Kurdistan... Which is natural since they're born/raised up in the West - or have been there for so long, that they've integrated/assimilated and thus have a more romantic and patriotic perspective, than a realistic and practical one (on Kurdistan + Kurds)...

If you stick around on VivaKurdistan, you'll very soon find that the youth there only knows the Western culture and or has a weak tie to their Kurdish culture... Mostly because they've never realy spent much time in Kurdistan to know the culture... And just living it at home is not enough - speaking from experience... Since childhood we've been banned to speak any other language but Kurdish in the home (by my parents) - and it's helped us preserve a lot of our expressions and language in the family... But that is not enough... It's like a constant battle... In fact we speak a far purer Kurdish in say for example my family than most Kurds in Colemêrg do... Why? Because we are not under assimilation from Turkish oppressors who ban our language - and we have studied our language at schools... We are very patriotic - but mostly spend more time on other issues - like the average Westerner on material matters - such as personal luxury and comfort or interests...

So you see brother, that there is a very wide gap between Kurds in the diaspora and the Kurds in Kurdistan... The youth on the net is hardly representative of all Kurds nor of the Kurdish youth - it's merely the Kurdish youth in the diaspora, since few Kurds in Kurdistan have access to the internet for them to have a voice on the net... And IF they do have access to the internet from Kurdistan, they're obviously also prone to other Western influences and trends, thus again being a countable few in a larger sea of ignorant Kurds who do not surfe the net or interact through other such medias... Such as the MSN or Yahoo etc...

Kurdspace is a good example: many Kurdish girls and boys from Europe and America - share music, files etc... This is a luxury hardly a single Kurd of a million can dream of in Kurdistan...

Yes in ancient times Kurds have been sun worshippers, true... And with the Aryan immigration to Kurdistan and Iran, the idea of the monotheistic God was instated and the prophet Zerdesht (born in Soma û Biradosta just outside Ûrmiye, where I'm from) being the source of this monotheism... Although some would argue that the monotheistic faith was instated since dawn of man (Adam and Eve)... Anyway - that's another issue... And this is all a bit off topic to Kurdish dances, so I will move it in a while... :)

By the way - much of the faries, dark angels etc. is just the natural sense Kurds have for beauty - in all forms... :)
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Re: Govendên Kurdî - The Kurdish dances

PostAuthor: sicpit » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:55 pm

So if I am ever at your home, or your parents home, I have to speak Kurdish? :lol:
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Re: Govendên Kurdî - The Kurdish dances

PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:59 am

sicpit wrote:So if I am ever at your home, or your parents home, I have to speak Kurdish? :lol:



\:D/ Exactly...






Think of it as a good and effective method of learning Kurdish! Haha :lol:
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Re: Govendên Kurdî - The Kurdish dances

PostAuthor: sicpit » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:20 pm

Diri wrote:
sicpit wrote:So if I am ever at your home, or your parents home, I have to speak Kurdish? :lol:



\:D/ Exactly...






Think of it as a good and effective method of learning Kurdish! Haha :lol:

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Re: Govendên Kurdî - The Kurdish dances

PostAuthor: dyaoko » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:38 am

very usefull post, thanks a lot diri .
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Re: Govendên Kurdî - The Kurdish dances

PostAuthor: Vladimir » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:55 pm

Yes, Diri. Sadly they also don't much about Kurdish history and tend to talk about religion/history/etc without knowing any backgrounds nor without reading background information on the internet or the library. It's a bad sad, but it doesn't only happen to Kurds.
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