Armenia ethnically cleansed Kurds,

[Piling]

anyway the first original religion of Kurds was the yezdism not islam but mostly kurds have forgotten it, it's a pity..

Not really exactly. Yezidism took its roots in a pre-Islamic religion and sufism. But current "yezidism" did not start before 12°-13° century, after Sheikh Adi's death.

[zurderer]

my only preoccupation is the few real asia minor people who reach to survive take back their own land....

You are realy funny. If we are asimilated locals, There are millions of real asia minor people at Turkey.

[Marie K.]

my only preoccupation is the few real asia minor people who reach to survive take back their own land....

You are realy funny. If we are asimilated locals, There are millions of real asia minor people at Turkey.

now cuz first u had killed a lot of them and the people u have turkified they had mixed by forced and too much so it can become only barbarian people with that....
and some dont even know they arent really turk..(i mean genetically)
for example their dna has got only 9% of similar than dna central asian turk..

maybe if one day they will admit they have greek, armenian, serbian...blood they could stop to hate those people who have brought everything to them..

[Marie K.]

zurderer i think u also have misunderstood what i have said maybe ive to be more plained ..
when i said "real asia minor "u thought that i was speaking about turkish now right? but indeed i was speaking about the asia minor people who haved succeed to not become turkified (by exile..) so for ex. mostly greeks, armenian, serbian, kurd..also assyrian...and so on..

[zurderer]

My friend, If My ancestors were from anatolia. I am local of anatolia.

So It is my job to decide my nation. I dont need your nose.

For your info, Kurdish people asimilated a lot others too.(I am not sure If you are kurd.) Infact every nation asimilated other nations. Learn history. Read. Think. do something instead of meaninglessly wasting words

[Marie K.]

My friend, If My ancestors were from anatolia. I am local of anatolia.

So It is my job to decide my nation. I dont need your nose.

For your info, Kurdish people asimilated a lot others too.(I am not sure If you are kurd.) Infact every nation asimilated other nations. Learn history. Read. Think. do something instead of meaninglessly wasting words

ur not a local of anatolia did u say that to enter in eu?
u know that ur first ancestors were from central asia..

kurdish people if they have assimilated some (as a some others people did right) they never try to change the all ethnicity of one land, thats all the difference.

[zurderer]

It is still good idea to ready some history. What about reading ottoman and byzantium history? So maybe you may have better ideas about asia minor.

[Marie K.]

It is still good idea to ready some history. What about reading ottoman and byzantium history? So maybe you may have better ideas about asia minor.

i really know a lot about turkey history (even more than some turkish) but of course i havent read turkish books who has writen by turkish propaganda.politics =what ur people learn today =. crap

[zurderer]

thanks for boring and unproductive discussion. Have a nice day.

[Marie K.]

thanks for boring and unproductive discussion. Have a nice day.

dont be jealous and envious of Aryan people..

[zurderer]

hahaha. I respect ayran people much.

[Diri]

My friend, If My ancestors were from anatolia. I am local of anatolia.

So It is my job to decide my nation. I dont need your nose.

For your info, Kurdish people asimilated a lot others too.(I am not sure If you are kurd.) Infact every nation asimilated other nations. Learn history. Read. Think. do something instead of meaninglessly wasting words

ur not a local of anatolia did u say that to enter in eu?
u know that ur first ancestors were from central asia..

kurdish people if they have assimilated some (as a some others people did right) they never try to change the all ethnicity of one land, thats all the difference.

Of course Zurdere is a "local" of Anatolia... As you said yourself: many peoples have been assimilated into the Turkish nation... And Zurderer's forefathers most probably too...

I don't see why you speak of "Aryans" - there are no "Aryans"...

See this is the problem: you think "identity" = "blood"...

Wrong... Today, most identities are based on social and cultural factors... VERY few are based on DNA... Let me stress: VERY few...

The Kurdish nation is the result of many layers of cultures and peoples... Kurds are a mix of mainly Hurrian and Median peoples... But many of us also have Semitic and Asiatic forefathers...

Personally I am of Kurdish, Greek and Assyrian bloodlines... Probably Armenian as well... As is the case with MOST Kurds - and if not Greek and Assyrian - then Persian, Turkish and Arabic blood...

We are human and the Kurdish nation is not based on blood - it is based on culture and language... It's based on historic and social factors...

The Turks must accept and acknowledge a fact: Turkish culture is a mix of Kurdish, Greek, Armenian and Balkan culture...

They must appreciate this - and not pretend as if they invented something new...

[Marie K.]

ur not a local of anatolia did u say that to enter in eu?
u know that ur first ancestors were from central asia..

kurdish people if they have assimilated some (as a some others people did right) they never try to change the all ethnicity of one land, thats all the difference.

Of course Zurdere is a "local" of Anatolia... As you said yourself: many peoples have been assimilated into the Turkish nation... And Zurderer's forefathers most probably too...

its conceivable but its not make them (the turkish) real Aryan..cuz the first Aryan were the indo-irani and the ancestors of Kurd were the Median u can see in those vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdW2yLH8bKE&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WowfIoIM4ss&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hxqfj68T2k&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

I don't see why you speak of "Aryans" - there are no "Aryans"...

See this is the problem: you think "identity" = "blood"...

Wrong... Today, most identities are based on social and cultural factors... VERY few are based on DNA... Let me stress: VERY few...

no infact there is many scholars, scientist who do dna testing first for knowning the ethnicity and by this way discoverning more about a culture or a civilisation...

The Kurdish nation is the result of many layers of cultures and peoples... Kurds are a mix of mainly Hurrian and Median peoples... But many of us also have Semitic and Asiatic forefathers...

and dont forget the medes are the direcet descend of Kurds and even about Hurrian they have been assimilated after by the Urartu which is almost similar to indo-european race.
anyway only a few of kurd are assyrian or turk blood cuz mostly they were protected by the mountains and then havent mixed too much with the invadors..

Personally I am of Kurdish, Greek and Assyrian bloodlines... Probably Armenian as well... As is the case with MOST Kurds - and if not Greek and Assyrian - then Persian, Turkish and Arabic blood...

yea but all of those people u said: greek, armenian, persian, irani (i dont know too much for the assyrian) are Aryan (belongs to indo-european civilisation)
and have share same roots & bloods..

why some kurd have also turk or arabic bloods cuz the had to lived in the country of the invadors (syria, iraq,turkey)
byt originally they were aryan..

We are human and the Kurdish nation is not based on blood - it is based on culture and language... It's based on historic and social factors...

i think the genetics is really matter to specify the ethnicity of people. In every encyclopedia u can see how people are classified maybe u dont know too much about anthropology but for ex. the classification of ethnies are divided depends of if they belongs to which family of language..& ethny

The Turks must accept and acknowledge a fact: Turkish culture is a mix of Kurdish, Greek, Armenian and Balkan culture...

They must appreciate this - and not pretend as if they invented something new...

by the way, this i agree;-) but u know that they are too pretentious to admit this evidence// (not all but a lot)

[Diri]

@Marie

I am an educated person, but thanks for the attempted crash-course in DNA studies and anthropology... And you are basing your information on videos from YouTube? Thanks - but I've read too many books and scientific articles to believe in that mambo-jambo...

And that is why I don't believe in this DNA rubbish... Because that is stone-age science which is outdated and not true at all... Kurds have MANY ancestors - and the two most important were the MEDES and the HURRIANS...

Today people are SO mixed that you can't talk about "race" like one could before...

"Ethnicity" is not based on DNA. It is based on cultural and social factors...

There are millions and millions of Kurds who are of mixed blood...

It seems you think that the linguistic divisions (for example Indo-European (Kurdish and Persian) vs. Afro-Asiatic (Arabic and Assyrian) and Ural-Altaic (Turkish) ) are based on DNA... But that is where you are wrong: the linguistic groups are based on relations of the languages - and their ancestry... For example:

Indo-Iranian (Iranic), Germanic and Slavic as well as Latin languages are all Indo-European... And yes, to some extent, the people in Germany, Iran, Poland and Italy are closer related to eachother genetically than they are to for example Malaysians - but that is because of GEOGRAPHY... Because they have not inter-married... So naturally they are genetically further from us Middle Easterners and Europeans... But that doesn't mean that all Indo-Iranian speakers are one unit of people which can be described as a "race" or having the SAME DNA... NO... Because people who speak Indo-Iranian languages are Persians, Kurds, Balouch, Tajiks, Afghans etc - and these have very VERY different DNAs...


And I don't realy understand what you are saying about Turks + Aryans... I never said anything about that... I just said: people who call themselves "Turks" are not from Mongolia or Central Asia. They are people BORN in Turkey or of parents who were born in Turkey...

[Marie K.]

@Marie

I am an educated person, but thanks for the attempted crash-course in DNA studies and anthropology... And you are basing your information on videos from YouTube? Thanks - but I've read too many books and scientific articles to believe in that mambo-jambo...

And that is why I don't believe in this DNA rubbish... Because that is stone-age science which is outdated and not true at all... Kurds have MANY ancestors - and the two most important were the MEDES and the HURRIANS...

Today people are SO mixed that you can't talk about "race" like one could before...

"Ethnicity" is not based on DNA. It is based on cultural and social factors...

There are millions and millions of Kurds who are of mixed blood...

It seems you think that the linguistic divisions (for example Indo-European (Kurdish and Persian) vs. Afro-Asiatic (Arabic and Assyrian) and Ural-Altaic (Turkish) ) are based on DNA... But that is where you are wrong: the linguistic groups are based on relations of the languages - and their ancestry... For example:

Indo-Iranian (Iranic), Germanic and Slavic as well as Latin languages are all Indo-European... And yes, to some extent, the people in Germany, Iran, Poland and Italy are closer related to eachother genetically than they are to for example Malaysians - but that is because of GEOGRAPHY... Because they have not inter-married... So naturally they are genetically further from us Middle Easterners and Europeans... But that doesn't mean that all Indo-Iranian speakers are one unit of people which can be described as a "race" or having the SAME DNA... NO... Because people who speak Indo-Iranian languages are Persians, Kurds, Balouch, Tajiks, Afghans etc - and these have very VERY different DNAs...


And I don't realy understand what you are saying about Turks + Aryans... I never said anything about that... I just said: people who call themselves "Turks" are not from Mongolia or Central Asia. They are people BORN in Turkey or of parents who were born in Turkey...

but the dna of Aryan people blood even if they have met some others people has still remain same.characteristics.see wikipedia aryan indo-iranian and genetics..