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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: nuray » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:13 pm

azade_ wrote:
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Vladimir wrote:This video is very old. It's a bit better nowadays.

yes i agree it is very old and it is better now.


Is it from the '80es or is it newer?

it from 91.
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PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:45 pm

nuray wrote:there are good and bad turks just like there good and bad kurds. pkk is terrorist until they stop doing terror.


How come then there are many more bad turks then good ones?. Do you even stop to consider why PKK was formed in the first place?.

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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: zurderer » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:05 pm

how did you count good turks and bad turks moron? Yes, I am bad turk.

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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:12 pm

zurderer wrote:how did you count good turks and bad turks moron? Yes, I am bad turk.



You dont need to be genius to know that all anatolian turks are a bunch of kemalist facist shit heads. The only good turks are the "Original" mongolian ones, oh what am i saying !!! , they brought the plague called ottoman to middle-east, ottoman a imperialist disease that ravaged near-east and balkans for hundreds of years, a disease that brainwashed you stupid anatolians into believing that your something your not.
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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:15 pm

Feyli_kord wrote:
zurderer wrote:how did you count good turks and bad turks moron? Yes, I am bad turk.



You dont need to be genius to know that all anatolian turks are a bunch of kemalist facist shit heads. The only good turks is are "Original" the mongolian ones.


Bro - you are out of line here...

This is just racist... Please refrain from using such language again... If you REALY want to discuss something, then send the right signals. You seemed very aggressive in your dividing of Turks into "more bad than good"...

Prejudice is an evil path...
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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:23 pm

Diri wrote:
Feyli_kord wrote:
zurderer wrote:how did you count good turks and bad turks moron? Yes, I am bad turk.



You dont need to be genius to know that all anatolian turks are a bunch of kemalist facist shit heads. The only good turks is are "Original" the mongolian ones.


Bro - you are out of line here...

This is just racist... Please refrain from using such language again... If you REALY want to discuss something, then send the right signals. You seemed very aggressive in your dividing of Turks into "more bad than good"...

Prejudice is an evil path...


No kake it's the truth, and im not being racist , im not claiming kurdish racial superiority , and anatolians is not a race , its a mono-ethnicity. im so tired of turkish imperialism, everywhere they go , they grab land that does rightfully not belong to them. Im so tired of the facist democracy! so tired, and that seg ata turk.

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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:33 pm

Feyli_kord wrote:
Diri wrote: Bro - you are out of line here...

This is just racist... Please refrain from using such language again... If you REALY want to discuss something, then send the right signals. You seemed very aggressive in your dividing of Turks into "more bad than good"...

Prejudice is an evil path...


No kake it's the truth, and im not being racist , im not claiming kurdish racial superiority , and anatolians is not a race , its a mono-ethnicity. im so tired of turks and there imperialism, everywhere they go , they grab land that does rightfully not belong to them. Im so tired of the facist democracy! so tired.


First of all. There is no "race" but the human race. We live in the 21st century AD - not in the 21st century BC...

There are NATIONS. Nations are made of people of different ethnic backgrounds.

Having emotional outbursts will perhaps calm you down - but it will not help the Kurdish movement... I know it seems hopeless - but that is just because we are too eager and too restless. Things are moving for the better for Kurds in Turkey - slowly... And the same goes for Kurds everywhere in the world - we are being recognized. 20 years ago, hardly any people knew who we were... Now the whole world knows who we are...

You may not realize this, bro - but many of us have Turks as relatives and neighbours - good neighbours...

Saying things like "most Turks are bad" or "fascist" is ignorant and prejudice. You haven't met all Turks to be the judge of that... And remember that the Turkish state is different from the Turkish people...

30% of Turkey support MHP and CHP - and other fascist parties... That's not much... The rest are mostly moderate people...
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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: nuray » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:41 pm

Feyli_kord wrote:
nuray wrote:there are good and bad turks just like there good and bad kurds. pkk is terrorist until they stop doing terror.


How come then there are many more bad turks then good ones?. Do you even stop to consider why PKK was formed in the first place?.

i disagree and that is racist insult. why you think pkk was formed...?
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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:36 am

nuray wrote:
Feyli_kord wrote:
nuray wrote:there are good and bad turks just like there good and bad kurds. pkk is terrorist until they stop doing terror.


How come then there are many more bad turks then good ones?. Do you even stop to consider why PKK was formed in the first place?.

i disagree and that is racist insult. why you think pkk was formed...?



That has nothing to do with race or racism. It's easy to figure out.

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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: zurderer » Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:21 am

You dont need to be genius to know that all anatolian turks are a bunch of kemalist facist shit heads.


Yes. You dont need to be genious to be a racist.. Ah Yes, you are far from becoming genious.. Infact, Intelligent people are not generally racist.

There is a great correlation between stupidy and racism.. I just find you too much racist.

By the way, where are you from my friend? where did you get your ideas about anatolian Turks?

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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:11 pm

zurderer wrote:

Yes. You dont need to be genious to be a racist.. Ah Yes, you are far from becoming genious.. Infact, Intelligent people are not generally racist.



My statement was never racist , it has nothing to do with race. Im not claiming kurdish racial superiority over turks , neither am i showing any hate. My statement did generalize , sure, but it has nothing to do with race, why? because turks are not a race. Here i can quote you the definition if you'd like
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" 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. "

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racist
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Next time try to get a good definition of what your accusing people for before you rush in like a stupid donkey with your half-arsed lame personal insults.


By the way, where are you from my friend? where did you get your ideas about anatolian Turks?


zurderer wrote:
There is a great correlation between stupidy and racism.. I just find you too much racist.


Racism is a development of xenophobia, xenophobia which is a human instinct. It has nothing to do with onces intelligence or mental capabilities. Rather racism correlates with uneducation and racial pride or simpley too little interaction with people of diffrent creed. I dont posses any of them , however many turks (such as yourself and other grey wolves/facists) would easily fit the bill due to there treatment and thougts on kurds and minorities.


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By the way, where are you from my friend? where did you get your ideas about anatolian Turks
Im your friend now? hahaha first you throw personal insults at me then you call me "friend". I'd rather cut off my left arm then befriend a facist ata-turk worshipping fanatic like yourself. Besides what are you doing here? dont you got a facist meeting meeting to attend? or a picture of ata turk to jerk off to?.
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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:25 pm

Feyli brother -

This talk about "races" is a hoax...

"Racism" doesn't LITTERALLY mean that you discriminate against another "race" - which is impossible knowing that ALL science agrees that there is just ONE HUMAN RACE...


I suggest we cut this "discussion" short - and start talking about something less confrontational and discriminating... We don't need to prove to eachother who's a people and who is not... There IS a Turkish people and there IS a Kurdish people... None of these people can be painted in either black or white. And if most Turks were fascist, then they sure as hell wouldn't have voted so overwhelmingly for an Islamist party which tries to introduce a new constitution and wipe away old "no-go's"...

Enough said on that issue... People who fail to recognize these facts are ignorant.

We can agree that the Turkish educational system is a fascist system which tries to brainwash children into worshipping Atagû instead of learning to be critical of the information they encounter...

That, however, does not mean that most Turks are fascist -----> in fact most Turks don't LIKE this educational system... The majority of Turkey is leftist and islamist - not right-hand-extremist...
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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: zurderer » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:20 am

My statement was never racist , it has nothing to do with race. Im not claiming kurdish racial superiority over turks , neither am i showing any hate. My statement did generalize , sure, but it has nothing to do with race, why? because turks are not a race. Here i can quote you the definition if you'd like

Bla bla bla.. I know definition and I know what do you mean. This does not make you any better. There is not kurdish arabic or other races too.

But people who claim himself as turk arab or kurd make this races.

So You are racist.. Or do you think moron, Kurds are pure kurds? Kurdish purity is as much comic as balkanian people purity.



Im your friend now? hahaha first you throw personal insults at me then you call me "friend". I'd rather cut off my left arm then befriend a facist ata-turk worshipping fanatic like yourself. Besides what are you doing here? dont you got a facist meeting meeting to attend? or a picture of ata turk to jerk off to?.

I am making irony. Of course you are not my friend. I will not become friend with bad Kurds and racist kurds are bad kurds..

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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: Sirwan » Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:14 pm

Diri wrote:Feyli brother -

This talk about "races" is a hoax...

"Racism" doesn't LITTERALLY mean that you discriminate against another "race" - which is impossible knowing that ALL science agrees that there is just ONE HUMAN RACE...


I suggest we cut this "discussion" short - and start talking about something less confrontational and discriminating... We don't need to prove to eachother who's a people and who is not... There IS a Turkish people and there IS a Kurdish people... None of these people can be painted in either black or white. And if most Turks were fascist, then they sure as hell wouldn't have voted so overwhelmingly for an Islamist party which tries to introduce a new constitution and wipe away old "no-go's"...

Enough said on that issue... People who fail to recognize these facts are ignorant.

We can agree that the Turkish educational system is a fascist system which tries to brainwash children into worshipping Atagû instead of learning to be critical of the information they encounter...

That, however, does not mean that most Turks are fascist -----> in fact most Turks don't LIKE this educational system... The majority of Turkey is leftist and islamist - not right-hand-extremist...


IMO, turkey is walking on the exact same path which iran did some 30 years ago; They made themeselves free from a racist Iranian nationalist secular system which promoted Aryan superiority to an islamic system. in the same analogue turkey is tired of a racist turkish nationalist secular system which promotes turkish superiority, and dsires an islamic system.
Though they are way back of Iranians. Iran in these 30 years was able to establish firmly itself, while turkey has a unclear future before herself in the years after islamists would take power.

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Re: Turkish State Terrorism - Video

PostAuthor: Diri » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:06 pm

nuray wrote:there are good and bad turks just like there good and bad kurds. pkk is terrorist until they stop doing terror.



Nuray - do you think I'm stupid? You realy feel a need to tell me that "there are good and bad turks just like there good and bad kurds"? :lol: If you have a need to tell me that, then I'd rather not discuss at all... How many times have I defended the Turkish side? A dozen times... And here you are telling me I should not think that all Turks are bad... :lol: Sorry - but I find that kind of offensive...

No matter how much I dislike the PKK - neither you nor I can deny the 3 CEASEFIRES which it initiated unilaterally... In e.g.: They called for a ceasefire - and Turkey didn't exactly respond with a "okey let's sort out this problem at the table" reaction... No it kept on emptying and razing village after village...

So when is the Turkish state gonna stop doing terrorist acts? Like Susurluk, Semdinli and many more...? When? Is blowing up BOOKSTORES not a terrorist act suddenly? :roll:
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