Tribes

[kardox]

Take A Chill pill Mr.

I am talking about Tribes of Zakho/Dehuk... didn't mention about them being Kurds thats why i wrote (Chaldean). And there is not such a think as Assyrians, Assyrians were wiped out by the medians long time ago. My family saved Tyaries when they were being killed by ottomans.

Can someone tell me about the tribes in parts of Kurdistan? I know only a little, and would like to know more. It seems there are many of the same names, and when you say some names people give you more attention.

Thank You,
Emmunah

Hello there I can tell u about some of the tribes in south kurdistan:

Zaxo/dehuk area:
Sindi(most in south kurdistan, few in and arround silopi in north kurdistan)
Guli
Musa rashi
Dosky (We have both Jiri and Jori, meaning upper and below they live in north and south)
Sharafani
Berwari
Kocher
Gui
Tayari(Cheldan) most of them were killed in north by turks, many moved to south kurdistan and then to baghdad, now they are comming back.
Zebari
Rekani
Barzani
Harki
Bradust
Surchi
and a little correction for my brother Diri, Bamern is just a bigger Village and not a tribe, i think they are Barwaries too.

there are many more, let me think for some days.. :d


cheers..

What is that suppoused to be "Tayari" (chaldan), who do you mean with this? You seem to point probably to an Assyrian Tribe of the Tiaries aint you? Cause if thats the cause, you are totatly wrong this is not a kurdish Tribe. If you mean someoneelse then I am sorry for attacking you, but if you refer to the semi indepndent tribe of the Hakkari area (present till the WW 1), then you are making up history.

[zurderer]

Kardox your signature is a joke?

romans and crusaders?

[sawra]

"Chaldeans" are Catholic Assyrians. Just ask the Pope. And, um, you know, many, many, many, many Assyrian Chaldean Catholics lol.

Assyrians are indeed alive. If you refute our existence...well, we'll just be forced to call you Ottoman leftovers of Persia and Turkey who got lost in the mountains.

My parents are from Barwar, and 50 years ago, Assyrians outnumbered the "Kurds", so I would be wary of where you consider yourselves indigenous. I'd say Northern Iran. Just let us know when you figure it out. The world is starting to laugh at you guys.



Rumtaya, of course tiyarayeh are Assyrian tribes. The word "Tiyari" is Assyrian - meaning "those from the mountains". Among the many other Assyrian names of the vilages and cities in Southern Assyria (what is now North Iraq). A hundred years ago, Turks ruled it over the area. 50 years ago, Arabs ruled over the area. Now, Kurds rule over the area. All things normalize. Eventually Assyria will return to the Assyrians.

[kardox]

If the world is laughing about our claims they are certainly amazed by your claims. So if you are from barwa/y region then tell me what berwar means, and u claim it to be Assyrians. Go read ur bible, it describes how you Medians wiped out, ehh.. you dont believe in ur own book? And we can not be Ottoman left overs since they were never living in our areas, our Imarats payed them taxes, basta. And we and Persians are related just like you are to any other Simit. Are u arab,Jew, Somali leftover??
Go and see kurdistan dude, go to Barwar region is beautiful. And rina waki mirova u ghedre xwe bezana, kesek waki kurdan bu we bash nabia.

"Chaldeans" are Catholic Assyrians. Just ask the Pope. And, um, you know, many, many, many, many Assyrian Chaldean Catholics lol.

Assyrians are indeed alive. If you refute our existence...well, we'll just be forced to call you Ottoman leftovers of Persia and Turkey who got lost in the mountains.

My parents are from Barwar, and 50 years ago, Assyrians outnumbered the "Kurds", so I would be wary of where you consider yourselves indigenous. I'd say Northern Iran. Just let us know when you figure it out. The world is starting to laugh at you guys.



Rumtaya, of course tiyarayeh are Assyrian tribes. The word "Tiyari" is Assyrian - meaning "those from the mountains". Among the many other Assyrian names of the vilages and cities in Southern Assyria (what is now North Iraq). A hundred years ago, Turks ruled it over the area. 50 years ago, Arabs ruled over the area. Now, Kurds rule over the area. All things normalize. Eventually Assyria will return to the Assyrians.

[kardox]

Why is it a Joke? U never heard about the song kine em ? Who overcome the crusaders in the holy land? And about the romans, well, the Medo Persian empires had plenty of lessons for the ancient Greek and romans.

Kardox your signature is a joke?

romans and crusaders?

[sawra]

Well, for me to read the Bible or not, it doesn't matter. Plus, Assyrians didn't get wiped out. Plus, the only ones who actually believe Kurds are "Medians" are, well, Kurds. There are no historians, archaeologists, linguists, sociologists, etc. to agree with this. Unless they are Kurdish or on the KRG's payroll No ancient history book mentions "Kurds", and certainly no history book connect the Mediens to ANYONE but the Persians. Which, again, just makes Kurds a Persian/Turkish group which stayed in the mountains.

You know that the world already accepts the Assyrians as existing, and descendents of the ancient people, right? I mean, academics, historians, non-Assyrians from all over the world. Our language is deeply rooted in Akkadian, not only Aramaic, and even some Sumerian. No other modern language has it but ours. Because, well, we're the indigenous people of Iraq, and the world's first great civilization. Still here, much to the dismay of the KDP and PUK perhaps, a daily reminder that they are new to the area. As annoying as that may be.

The Bible, by the way, is as much a "history' book as the Qu'ran is. Go to Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, or hey - the University of Baghdad. They'll tell you who the Assyrians are!

If the world is laughing about our claims they are certainly amazed by your claims. So if you are from barwa/y region then tell me what berwar means, and u claim it to be Assyrians. Go read ur bible, it describes how you Medians wiped out, ehh.. you dont believe in ur own book? And we can not be Ottoman left overs since they were never living in our areas, our Imarats payed them taxes, basta. And we and Persians are related just like you are to any other Simit. Are u arab,Jew, Somali leftover??
Go and see kurdistan dude, go to Barwar region is beautiful. And rina waki mirova u ghedre xwe bezana, kesek waki kurdan bu we bash nabia.

"Chaldeans" are Catholic Assyrians. Just ask the Pope. And, um, you know, many, many, many, many Assyrian Chaldean Catholics lol.

Assyrians are indeed alive. If you refute our existence...well, we'll just be forced to call you Ottoman leftovers of Persia and Turkey who got lost in the mountains.

My parents are from Barwar, and 50 years ago, Assyrians outnumbered the "Kurds", so I would be wary of where you consider yourselves indigenous. I'd say Northern Iran. Just let us know when you figure it out. The world is starting to laugh at you guys.



Rumtaya, of course tiyarayeh are Assyrian tribes. The word "Tiyari" is Assyrian - meaning "those from the mountains". Among the many other Assyrian names of the vilages and cities in Southern Assyria (what is now North Iraq). A hundred years ago, Turks ruled it over the area. 50 years ago, Arabs ruled over the area. Now, Kurds rule over the area. All things normalize. Eventually Assyria will return to the Assyrians.

[Vladimir]

Assyrian nationalism, Kurdish nationalism, Turkish nationalism, Armenian nationalism, Aramean nationalism, Iranian nationalism, Arabic nationalism, etc.

[nuray]

If the world is laughing about our claims they are certainly amazed by your claims. So if you are from barwa/y region then tell me what berwar means, and u claim it to be Assyrians. Go read ur bible, it describes how you Medians wiped out, ehh.. you dont believe in ur own book? And we can not be Ottoman left overs since they were never living in our areas, our Imarats payed them taxes, basta. And we and Persians are related just like you are to any other Simit. Are u arab,Jew, Somali leftover??
Go and see kurdistan dude, go to Barwar region is beautiful. And rina waki mirova u ghedre xwe bezana, kesek waki kurdan bu we bash nabia.

berwar means like a slope or hillside in kurdish so i agree that assyrian is wrong saying it is assyrian land.

[Vladimir]

Well, for me to read the Bible or not, it doesn't matter. Plus, Assyrians didn't get wiped out. Plus, the only ones who actually believe Kurds are "Medians" are, well, Kurds. There are no historians, archaeologists, linguists, sociologists, etc. to agree with this. Unless they are Kurdish or on the KRG's payroll No ancient history book mentions "Kurds", and certainly no history book connect the Mediens to ANYONE but the Persians. Which, again, just makes Kurds a Persian/Turkish group which stayed in the mountains.

You know that the world already accepts the Assyrians as existing, and descendents of the ancient people, right? I mean, academics, historians, non-Assyrians from all over the world. Our language is deeply rooted in Akkadian, not only Aramaic, and even some Sumerian. No other modern language has it but ours. Because, well, we're the indigenous people of Iraq, and the world's first great civilization. Still here, much to the dismay of the KDP and PUK perhaps, a daily reminder that they are new to the area. As annoying as that may be.

The Bible, by the way, is as much a "history' book as the Qu'ran is. Go to Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, or hey - the University of Baghdad. They'll tell you who the Assyrians are!

It's a matter of interpretation. According to genetic research 'Assyrians'/Armenians/Turks/Iranians/Kurds are all related. Identities aren't fixed. They can change. You can become an Aramean, Zaza, Assyrian, Turk, Feyli, Shabak, Ahl Haqq, etc. Arameans say Assyrians ceased to exist after they were destroyed by the Medes. Assyrians say Arameans don't exist. Some Turks say Kurds are mix of Persians/Turks and are actually persianised Turks. Some Assyrians like you say Kurds don't exist and are just a persian/turkish group. Greeks say al lot of inhabitants of Asia Minor became Turkish after the take over by the Selcuk/Mongols/Ottoman empire. What's so scientific a bout this?

[Sirwan]

Well, for me to read the Bible or not, it doesn't matter. Plus, Assyrians didn't get wiped out. Plus, the only ones who actually believe Kurds are "Medians" are, well, Kurds. There are no historians, archaeologists, linguists, sociologists, etc. to agree with this. Unless they are Kurdish or on the KRG's payroll No ancient history book mentions "Kurds", and certainly no history book connect the Mediens to ANYONE but the Persians. Which, again, just makes Kurds a Persian/Turkish group which stayed in the mountains.

You know that the world already accepts the Assyrians as existing, and descendents of the ancient people, right? I mean, academics, historians, non-Assyrians from all over the world. Our language is deeply rooted in Akkadian, not only Aramaic, and even some Sumerian. No other modern language has it but ours. Because, well, we're the indigenous people of Iraq, and the world's first great civilization. Still here, much to the dismay of the KDP and PUK perhaps, a daily reminder that they are new to the area. As annoying as that may be.

The Bible, by the way, is as much a "history' book as the Qu'ran is. Go to Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, or hey - the University of Baghdad. They'll tell you who the Assyrians are!

If the world is laughing about our claims they are certainly amazed by your claims. So if you are from barwa/y region then tell me what berwar means, and u claim it to be Assyrians. Go read ur bible, it describes how you Medians wiped out, ehh.. you dont believe in ur own book? And we can not be Ottoman left overs since they were never living in our areas, our Imarats payed them taxes, basta. And we and Persians are related just like you are to any other Simit. Are u arab,Jew, Somali leftover??
Go and see kurdistan dude, go to Barwar region is beautiful. And rina waki mirova u ghedre xwe bezana, kesek waki kurdan bu we bash nabia.

"Chaldeans" are Catholic Assyrians. Just ask the Pope. And, um, you know, many, many, many, many Assyrian Chaldean Catholics lol.

Assyrians are indeed alive. If you refute our existence...well, we'll just be forced to call you Ottoman leftovers of Persia and Turkey who got lost in the mountains.

My parents are from Barwar, and 50 years ago, Assyrians outnumbered the "Kurds", so I would be wary of where you consider yourselves indigenous. I'd say Northern Iran. Just let us know when you figure it out. The world is starting to laugh at you guys.



Rumtaya, of course tiyarayeh are Assyrian tribes. The word "Tiyari" is Assyrian - meaning "those from the mountains". Among the many other Assyrian names of the vilages and cities in Southern Assyria (what is now North Iraq). A hundred years ago, Turks ruled it over the area. 50 years ago, Arabs ruled over the area. Now, Kurds rule over the area. All things normalize. Eventually Assyria will return to the Assyrians.

nonsense, the only pseudo-scholar which says modern Aramaic-speaking tribes can be related to ancient assyrians is a finnish man with an aramaic-speaking girlfriend.

On the other hand, Kurds have a lot of ''real'' scholars in support of their median origin. Enough to say the greatest iranologist of all times: Vladimir Minorsky.
your post was nothing but bulshit.

[Vladimir]

Not a lot of scientists support the 'Median' theory of Minorsky. But it doesn't matter. It's only nationalist mythology. You cannot say you have one great ancestor. Homogeneity doesn't exist. It's just one big mix.

[Rumtaya]

Take A Chill pill Mr.

I am talking about Tribes of Zakho/Dehuk... didn't mention about them being Kurds thats why i wrote (Chaldean). And there is not such a think as Assyrians, Assyrians were wiped out by the medians long time ago. My family saved Tyaries when they were being killed by ottomans.

Chaldean, thats bullshit....Tyaraye I am of that tribe and noone of us say we are chaldean, however chaldean means = assyrians of the catholic church (roman), but Tyaries are tied to the Assyrian Church of the East (the mother church of assyrians).

Your familie saved who? Are you kidding me, Tyaraye didnt need any help of any families we have been semi indendend till the first world war. It shows that you have no clue and just propandagzie any racists and made up histroy and ideas.

[kardox]

U call ourself what ever u like and desire, from today i will just call you Fala, that is the Kurdish word for Christians.
You become aggressive and post bullshit, you start posting after you thought i was calling Falas for Kurds, I never did that, go and check it out again, then call ur friends to write bullshit about the pre-historic era and glory of your "Assyria". Semi-independent Tayaries, that is very interesting, send some info, I love to know more about it. Tayairies were almost wiped out by turks and many of them came to south Kurdistan and Kurds, including my family protected them. We have our own Falas, we protect them , when you guys come to Europe you get very big mouthed.

Take A Chill pill Mr.

I am talking about Tribes of Zakho/Dehuk... didn't mention about them being Kurds thats why i wrote (Chaldean). And there is not such a think as Assyrians, Assyrians were wiped out by the medians long time ago. My family saved Tyaries when they were being killed by ottomans.

Chaldean, thats bullshit....Tyaraye I am of that tribe and noone of us say we are chaldean, however chaldean means = assyrians of the catholic church (roman), but Tyaries are tied to the Assyrian Church of the East (the mother church of assyrians).

Your familie saved who? Are you kidding me, Tyaraye didnt need any help of any families we have been semi indendend till the first world war. It shows that you have no clue and just propandagzie any racists and made up histroy and ideas.

[kardox]

Hmm.. you are full of bullshit dude, I know who ancient Assyrians were, the matter is that after ca. 2500 years bunch of falas are calling them selfs Assyrians.
The missionaries gave you that name, to make you believe you once were a great nation, so you could fight the ottomans. I have seen some articles about that, i will write more on this issue. I think KRG should limit-ate their support to falas, They seem to become more and more aggressive, if it was up to me i would love to shut down Ishtar TV to begin with.

Well, for me to read the Bible or not, it doesn't matter. Plus, Assyrians didn't get wiped out. Plus, the only ones who actually believe Kurds are "Medians" are, well, Kurds. There are no historians, archaeologists, linguists, sociologists, etc. to agree with this. Unless they are Kurdish or on the KRG's payroll No ancient history book mentions "Kurds", and certainly no history book connect the Mediens to ANYONE but the Persians. Which, again, just makes Kurds a Persian/Turkish group which stayed in the mountains.

You know that the world already accepts the Assyrians as existing, and descendents of the ancient people, right? I mean, academics, historians, non-Assyrians from all over the world. Our language is deeply rooted in Akkadian, not only Aramaic, and even some Sumerian. No other modern language has it but ours. Because, well, we're the indigenous people of Iraq, and the world's first great civilization. Still here, much to the dismay of the KDP and PUK perhaps, a daily reminder that they are new to the area. As annoying as that may be.

The Bible, by the way, is as much a "history' book as the Qu'ran is. Go to Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, or hey - the University of Baghdad. They'll tell you who the Assyrians are!

If the world is laughing about our claims they are certainly amazed by your claims. So if you are from barwa/y region then tell me what berwar means, and u claim it to be Assyrians. Go read ur bible, it describes how you Medians wiped out, ehh.. you dont believe in ur own book? And we can not be Ottoman left overs since they were never living in our areas, our Imarats payed them taxes, basta. And we and Persians are related just like you are to any other Simit. Are u arab,Jew, Somali leftover??
Go and see kurdistan dude, go to Barwar region is beautiful. And rina waki mirova u ghedre xwe bezana, kesek waki kurdan bu we bash nabia.

"Chaldeans" are Catholic Assyrians. Just ask the Pope. And, um, you know, many, many, many, many Assyrian Chaldean Catholics lol.

Assyrians are indeed alive. If you refute our existence...well, we'll just be forced to call you Ottoman leftovers of Persia and Turkey who got lost in the mountains.

My parents are from Barwar, and 50 years ago, Assyrians outnumbered the "Kurds", so I would be wary of where you consider yourselves indigenous. I'd say Northern Iran. Just let us know when you figure it out. The world is starting to laugh at you guys.



Rumtaya, of course tiyarayeh are Assyrian tribes. The word "Tiyari" is Assyrian - meaning "those from the mountains". Among the many other Assyrian names of the vilages and cities in Southern Assyria (what is now North Iraq). A hundred years ago, Turks ruled it over the area. 50 years ago, Arabs ruled over the area. Now, Kurds rule over the area. All things normalize. Eventually Assyria will return to the Assyrians.

[kardox]

Thank you for the explanation. But i am still waiting for his answer. He would surly say the following ; Bar=ancient Devinne Assyrian God and War= The ancient Devinne Assyrian Gods wife or something, they made love on the hillside and blessed Sargon for the very first time.

If the world is laughing about our claims they are certainly amazed by your claims. So if you are from barwa/y region then tell me what berwar means, and u claim it to be Assyrians. Go read ur bible, it describes how you Medians wiped out, ehh.. you dont believe in ur own book? And we can not be Ottoman left overs since they were never living in our areas, our Imarats payed them taxes, basta. And we and Persians are related just like you are to any other Simit. Are u arab,Jew, Somali leftover??
Go and see kurdistan dude, go to Barwar region is beautiful. And rina waki mirova u ghedre xwe bezana, kesek waki kurdan bu we bash nabia.

berwar means like a slope or hillside in kurdish so i agree that assyrian is wrong saying it is assyrian land.