Are kurds Iranian? No.

[ideas]

I shall explain why, (Note: this is a reply to an Iranian kurd)

Now let us talk about the term "Iranian" a word that came into use around 1935 with political motives, what does Iranian mean? Aryan? now why would someone recognise kurds as Aryans only when clearly we are not? I mean surely after the persians deafeted the medes, some of the median tribes mixed with the persians, however some of the median tribes notably the "magis" did not, and hated the persians, now I shall add that the magis are the ancesters of kurds, and then this tribe happend to mix with many other local tribes and ethnic groups that most likely disliked the persians and all of these tribes (possibly 60) mixed together and the term kurd was born from the land karda and the Corduene, kurmanji which happened to be the most common language among these tribes became the most spoken language and kurmanji which is an INDO-EUROPEAN(ARYAN) language is similar to Persian NOW the new term IRANIAN or shall I say ARYAN was invented by the persians to justify their occupation of the surrounding peoples land, this does NOT make kurds Iranians because the term Iranian is politically engineered to fool people like you into believing so! I hope that you can re-think your errors and come to a more appropriate view.

Which brings me to my last question, are you or your family shia? Im aware of the kermanshani kurds, but lets not generalize as yes majority do not want to separate due to the fact that they are shia, I mean thats the problem in the middle east, look at Iraq the Iraqi arabs are at each others throat because one is shia and one is sunni, even though they are both arabs.. I do hope that this changed your mind.

[talsor]

Interesting topic Kak Ideas

History in my view is a big lie with several versions . It is like a restaurant menu , you can pick and choose at your convinent .
The facts however remain in the actions we take or taken against us , which ultimately define who we are and how we are viewed .

are we Iranian ? certainly not and as I stated above the action of the Iranian Regime and persian empire prior to that speaks for it self . You can enter into an endless debate and provide thousands of document which prove and disprove such a theory which in my view is not worth an iota and remember that such propaganda was even used by turks just few decades ago , In it they claimed that original turks are mountain turks ( referring to Kurds )

To be on the fair side though, I find the Iranian in diaspora to be lot less Racist towards Kurds .....well at least the educated ones .


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[ideas]

I find the Iranian (people) and more or less their new government the least racist toward kurds, kurds in Iran have it decent unless they go into politic compared to turkey or syria and ex-iraq

[KurdishAryanSoccer]

bro MEDES WERE KURDS persians always wanted to steal kurdish culture ,names etc . and we are not iranian ,never .we are kurds from kurdistan. .

[kurdimemin_diako]

yeah i also remember someone said kurds are Iranian and a non-separated part of iran !
and as we know he was kelhur (kirmashani) ......
باوه حیز

[alan131210]

if east/irani Kurdistan breaks away from iran one day kermashanis will and can stay with Iran no pressure .

[Kulka]

yeah i also remember someone said kurds are Iranian and a non-separated part of iran !
and as we know he was kelhur (kirmashani) ......
باوه حیز

باوه حیز - you mean - هه‌تیو باز - or i mixed up something?

[ocmentos]

I find the Iranian (people) and more or less their new government the least racist toward kurds, kurds in Iran have it decent unless they go into politic compared to turkey or syria and ex-iraq

actually in Iraq, Kurdish education was allowed all the times. This you still can't see in Iran. Why should Kurds in Iran get PERSIAN education? why not Persians getting Kurdish Education? Why are they superior to Kurds? I would say that is very racist. Any ways Kurds ARE Iranians, no doubt.. but they are Iranians genetically or linguistically, that does not mean we have to be Iranian by nationality. The Iranian government is Persian not Iranian, if it becomes Iranian ( freedom of education, autonomous rule...) then sure Kurds could be Iranians by nationality, but the truth is Iran is actually Persia.

[kurdimemin_diako]

yeah i also remember someone said kurds are Iranian and a non-separated part of iran !
and as we know he was kelhur (kirmashani) ......
باوه حیز

باوه حیز - you mean - هه‌تیو باز - or i mixed up something?

no. it means something bad

[KurdishAryanSoccer]

kurdish median empire 600bc




video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbCRuYg3DBU&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

[Kulka]

yeah i also remember someone said kurds are Iranian and a non-separated part of iran !
and as we know he was kelhur (kirmashani) ......
باوه حیز

باوه حیز - you mean - هه‌تیو باز - or i mixed up something?

no. it means something bad

i know its not compliment - but i asked if both expressions have the same meaning

[kurdimemin_diako]

no ! not same meaning!

[Kulka]

- i have to complete my education

[alan131210]

I find the Iranian (people) and more or less their new government the least racist toward kurds, kurds in Iran have it decent unless they go into politic compared to turkey or syria and ex-iraq

actually in Iraq, Kurdish education was allowed all the times. This you still can't see in Iran. Why should Kurds in Iran get PERSIAN education? why not Persians getting Kurdish Education? Why are they superior to Kurds? I would say that is very racist. Any ways Kurds ARE Iranians, no doubt.. but they are Iranians genetically or linguistically, that does not mean we have to be Iranian by nationality. The Iranian government is Persian not Iranian, if it becomes Iranian ( freedom of education, autonomous rule...) then sure Kurds could be Iranians by nationality, but the truth is Iran is actually Persia.

then why dont they change the name to Perisa ? there is no aryan government its purely persian , what about the azheris what should persia do with them ?

[kurdimemin_diako]

:lol: - i have to complete my education

this words are not educated !