Djembe

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Djembe, neredesin sen?

Baris

Thank you for the fairness. I wasn't ban, but I am working in Jamaica. lol. I will be back....

You're welcome.
I knew you were not banned, but I was wondering why you hadn't posted lately. Anyway, thanks for the info. Hope you have some time off from work soon to enjoy Jamaica and also to make RBK more active.

[Djembe]

Djembe: Özerklik konusunda bunu şöyleyeceğim: Bugünün Türkiye Cumhuriyeti içinde Kürtlerin hakları yok. Türklerin de, Arapların da yok. Böyle bir "Kürt özerkliği"nden daha büyük bir ülküye varmak istiyorum. Bence TC içinde bambaşka bir siyasal sistem gerek olmakta. Senin "Anadoludan değilim" söylemen doğrudu. Trakya Anadolu değildir, ve benim TC'ye "Anadolu" adı vermem haksızdır. Ama TC'nin nüfusundan gayri-Anadolulular ülkenin gayri-Türklerinden daha azdır, değil mi? Böyle "ulus-dövlet"lerdeki düşünürken, kendimizi boğuyoruz. Kim Anadoluludur? Kim Türktür? Kim Kürttür? Ve saire.

Ama şu anda Amerikaya döndüm, ve şöyle sorunlar hakkında düşünmek için zamanım varsa bilmiyorum. Dindeşlerimle yeniden tartışıyorum, maalesef. Biz anlaşılamaz bir dünyadaki yaşan yanlış anlaşan ve yanlış anlaşılan bir türüz. Böyle varoluş anlamsız görünüyor. Böyle de alkola dönüyoruz.

http://www.eksisozluk.com/show.asp?t=ferec

İyi akşamlar, yoldaş. Geri geleceğim, doğru zamanda.

To the rest:

Niha ez li Amerîka me, û ji fikirîn der bar Kurd û Kurdistan, ez der bar gelê ola xwe difikirim. Li Tirkiye fişar ji televizyon serê min mehande. Û niha fişar ji Cihû Amerikên din serê min mehande. Rojek emê bimirin. Berê ji wê ez pir alkolê vebixwarim.

As you can see my Kurdish is not very good still and I am going to give up and sleep now. I will be back when the time is right.

In my absence I would like to make this request: Whoever is the mod, do not ban Djembe. He seems legitimately interested in discussing these issues with you, he does not seem to be one of the awful fascist Kurd-haters I have had to tolerate in my time in Turkey, or else he would not even be here. His presence shows that he thinks you are people worth talking to, and there are many in Turkey who don't believe so, people with degrees and money and influence and the support of the state. If he is wrong, I hope he can accept his mistakes and learn. If he is right, I hope you will not ignore him simply because he is a Turk. He is not his government. I hope we all (including him) can remember that, and not just for him either: None of us are our government, and we don't have to defend them.

I don't know what to say anymore.

Peace be upon you all.

ArabChildren
I agree with you that Kurdish people do not have their universal rights. Neither do Turkish people. I say Turkish people are second class citizen, Kurdish People are third class. I am against the state of Turkey to be based on ‘nationhood’. It should be based on ‘people’. And for the same reason I am against national state in Turkey, I am also against ‘Kurdish independence and establishing United Kurdish State. I am against Zionism and state of Israel with the same reason. In Turkey, Kemalist nationalism, or nationalist Turan or Kurdish Nationalism are ideologically very far from me. I do recognize as Kurdish nationalism is self-defense, however, as all people in the world, they are not immune the attraction of negative nationalism in ‘united Kurdistan utopia’.
I am anthropologically, not a Turkish. My ancestor from Balkan, I have nothing Turkish. My loyalty Turkey is linguistic, historical and cultural. While I am a Turkish citizen, I am also Canadian, secular, with no religion, liberal, social democrat, pro-multicultural, green with a multi-racial family of Africa.
I appreciate your support for my right being here and contribute. I don’t hate Kurdish, I don’t hate Jewish, and I don’t hate Muslims. But may have strong negative feelings about some states, ideologies, for example Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, neo-cons, communism, fascism, Kemalist…etc.