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PostAuthor: Mosul » Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:40 am

i dont think diri is that bad, he just says alot of stuff. but many times have people corrected medyah, when he relates islam and terrorism, and yet he still opens his mouth, even though the facts are explict.

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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:13 am

roller rebwar wrote:watch it Mosul...
The dictator ( Medya) and his henchman ( Diri) are not only going to delete your replies...they're also going to ban you from the forum...speak behind your back , and try to make it your fault
I guess that's the problem that people like medya and diri get when they have tooo much power....they abuse it


to Mosul ,
how do you agree with Rebwar, should you agree with everything bad about me ? well me and you have a discussion about relligion, that has nothing to ppl's personal problem.

this forum has more 92 members, and among all of these ppl just one been banned, for "bad mouthing" and spamming.

Rebwar .if i was dictator i would ban you and your messages , so you cant bark anymore , but I let you spread what you want about me ! there is no power abuse, but there is Jealsy ! and I see you are an opportunists , ! you use every chance to make new enemies for me
ha ha I dont have any problem with mosul , we are just having a "disscussion" and you are just taking a leap in the dark to make a new enenmy for me.


To Mosul , I dont make lies about Islam, I really dont need to make lie ! honstly why should I do that ?...
about the Sorah and aya that I reffer to, I am really surprised that you never read that sorah and aya, I had a relligion teacher at school and we alwyas talked about that...I think he was reffering to Al-Ahzab Sorah .

and thats an Obvious Thing in Islam I really wonder that you never heard it,
it says "when Muslem Army attack to a Non-Muslem country , Muslem can Take their property and their females as Ghanymat "
thats what happend to Iran , I used to aske my teacher why Arabs took our porperty and our females.... he was convicing me that it is ok to do that !
well it thiknk you didnt even read Mohammad's life,
in one story , i remember my teacher said , Islam Army defeated Kafir's army, but in that war, a part of muslems had runned away,
and when it was the time to share the property of the enemy among the Islamic Army, mohammad said those muslems who runned away in the war willl not be given any "ghanymat"

in another story...
do you know who killed Omar Khattab? (the khalipha) the Iranian that was taken as "Servent " by Wiinner Arabs , and they took him to Sudi Arabia and used him as severvent,. while he was a architectc,

Fyroz (that iranian) went to Omar and several times said to him "I have been taken as Ghanymat and they are opressing me , I am not a servent i am a profession architect,..." but Omar replied him "it is God's Order ..."
some years later, Fyroz(that irainan) killed Omar while he was praying...


there are several things that proves Muslems take their enemy as Ghanymant after they defeat them....i wonder why you never heard those...

it is a a very very simple rule in Quran and Islam .
i recommedn you read more before accuse other ppl to "making lie"
there are some muslems who just want to make islam look better...and deny the truth in quran...

like "Stoning" which is a punishment that been Ordered by god ! but belive me I discusussed with ppl like you , who say "you make lie about islam, god never ordered Stoning ...."
all I can say is
"it is in Quran ! "
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PostAuthor: Mosul » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:47 am

medya you know nothing of islam, you are the same person who swore to be a mullah, if anybody even did tell you that then their wrong, it is not in Islam, and i will reread the surah just to prove your wrong.

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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:25 am

Mosul wrote:medya you know nothing of islam, .

if I dont know anything about islam you tell me what you know ! Mosul is that your way of teaching me?

you are the same person who swore to be a mullah, if anybody even did tell you that then their wrong, it is not in Islam,

please dont accuse me of those things... I am just telling what I have read and what I know, if i am wrong just tell me ! dont need to tell me I am this and that...

and that teacher that I talked about was a "Sunny Kurd Teacher"
not a "Shite Persian Taecher", and he knew so much about Islam.

I still insist on what I said , because it is truth ! and it has happend in Islam.
By ISLAM : you can take your infidel enemy's property and their females" after you defreat them.

nobody can deny what Islam Army stole from iranians (1300-400 years ago)....i remember in one book it says they took the biggest rug of the world to arabia as "ghanymat" and they took ppl as Servent and Kaniz, and even among arab imams some of them took some Iranian Female as their "Kaniz" (Female Slave that you can have sex with)
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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:02 pm

(11)Women are stoned to death for Adultery : This is totally false as there is NO death penalty for adultery in Islam (Submission). The penalty of adultery is equal for both men and women, and involves symbolic lashing. Social pressure, i.e., public witnessing of the penalty, is the basic punishment see 24:1-2


Medya - Please go to this site and read the TRUTH about the Quran... The things you are saying written in the HADITH and THOSE cannot be trusted as they have been written by some ugly bearded imams 200 years after Prophet Mohammed...

Here is the site:http://www.submission.org/

Read about "WOMEN IN ISLAM"
Read about "Terrorism and Jihad"

And read all the other topics that you find interesting...

THE HOLY QURAN has never evn ONCE said you can do others harm...
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:04 pm

Read Al-Noor Sorah , for the punishment of Women adultry.

well there are diffrent views of Islam ...as every relligion...some ppl belive even if god said to do Stoninig you shouldnt do it in This Era.
but Stoning been said in Quran. not in Haidth.

I welomce those ppl who try to make islam softer, but I am noy lying that Quran said to take enemy's property as Ghanymat, and also Stoning .

I wish somebody can find a site that has Quran in English, so i can show you the things that I am talking about in English.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:07 pm

MEDYA!

This isn't funny anymore... Have you gone to the site? Did you read about all the lies? And did you read the truth?

There are some people who want to currupt the HOLY words of GOD - but they will be punished by GOD on judgement day!
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:13 pm

what are talking about ? give me a Quran ! I will show you that god has said that Women Adultry msut be punished by Stoninigg !

I am just sayiong what God has said ! whats my sin ?
stop threating me , go buy a Quran, and Read the Al-NOOr sorrah. okay?
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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:19 pm

Medya - didn't I GIVE you a source??? Haven't you READ that source? Don't you always say "give me a source"... Well - I gave you one - but you still don't wanna believe it... :roll:


Don't get angry bira - we are discussing... :wink:
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:26 pm

you did give me a source, and I said there is no dobth , that there are diffrent views of islam some belive we shouldnt do this punishment in this Era

brother ,
stoning ,
cuting hand -theif's punishment-
and...
are islamic punishement that is written in Quran. !

thats what I say !
If the source that you had given me, was Quran , then I would be convieded
it is a site that talks about islam and said ilsam is this and that....it is human's word.

whatever... It is none of my bussines, it seems if talk more i would loose my head, it i s none of my bussiness ...you can fool yourself and pretend quran hasnt said that... i just reocmmedn you buy an Arabic quran and read it !
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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:38 pm

I suggest we all look for an English version of the Quran here on the net - as mater of fact - I am gonna give you not ONE but TWO translations of the HOLY QURAN INTO ENGLISH! :wink:


NOW - I wanna see where it says "cut, kill,stone,rape,take sex-slave,steal, etc " in the HOLY Quran...


http://www.quran.org.uk/out.php?LinkID=1

http://www.quran.org.uk/out.php?LinkID=2

Medya - ENLIGHTEN ME :D
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PostAuthor: Mosul » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:30 pm

medyah u dont know anything about islam, stop with all these lies, you yourself know your wrong, yet you keep talking, stop repeating what someone has told you, and actually go to the sites diri has offered you.
until then you have no argument.

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